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by Scott Manley 01/02/07 Voice your opinion about this topic in the forums
Konus 130 Maksutov-Cassegrain -
The Dollar Menu Mak
The Konus Maksutov-Cassegrain is the third scope I've bought in a year,
it's a 'cat' produced by Chinese optic manufacturer Bosma and
sold under the Italian Konus label on a motorised equatorial mount as
the Motormax 130HM, Celestron also sell a standalone optical tube as a
spotting scope. The Konus version is commonly found on eBay and
astromart at under $250 for the tube alone, in fact for a while it was
so common that some people, myself included, began to speculate that it
must posess some fundamental defect, the reputation of the Baytronix
brand taints everything on eBay. I'm sure you've seen these
and
wondered whether they're really a bargain or not, well a combination of
curiosity, necessity and plain old cheap-skate-ness prompted me to buy
one and give it a whirl.
Why Did I Buy Such A Scope?
After a lengthy hiatus from astronomical activity I got interested in
amateur astronomy last year, I was 'given'
a 100mm F/6 Orion refractor
as a Christmas present which has got a decent amount of use from my
back yard over the last year. Given that I live in the middle of
Oakland, just a stones throw from the Colloseum my visual observing has
been confined to bright objects, leaving the details of faint fuzzies
to the magic of CCD's and image processing. My refractor does a
reasonable job on planets but to get that close up view I found myself
stacking barlow lenses and using eyepieces with eye reliefs more
commonly associated with contact lenses, or funneling that light into
a webcam. Stacking those optics on the cheap Chinese focuser was far
from ideal, and the blue meanies did their best to ruin my attempts at
imaging the planets, so I began to feel that I should look
at a scope more suited for planetary imaging. Why spend all that effort
bending light to focus at 600mm only to spend more effort unbending it
to reach a focal length nearer 2 metres?

My existing 100mm f/6 Orion refractor, a great general
purpose scope on
a solid mount.
My other Orion - he may be dressed as a space cadet but
he's not into astronomy yet, he's one of the reasons why I'm pinching
pennies and proud of it!
Why Did I Choose an MCT?
So, the idea to acquire a
Maksutov-Cassegrain scope came from a love of
the planets, long focal lengths with 'apo-like' colour correction at
prices that won't break the bank. And that last point was important
since I'd just added another Orion to my household in June, he's 5
months old now and isn't so interested in astronomy just yet, he can
see the moon, but since he can't put it in his mouth he loses interest
pretty quickly.
As astronomy gear goes, MCTs are generally pretty cheap, the simple
design uses a spherical corrector lens and 2 spherical mirrors - the
secondary can simply be a silvered area on the corrector lens. The
simplicity of the design also limits the size of the scope, as the
aperture increases the thickness of the primary corrector lens also
increases and becomes heavier, beyond 150mm of aperture the
Schmidt-Cassergrain design becomes a more popular choice with the
thinner corrector plate making for a lighter tube and you'll
find the big optics manufacturers tend to follow this pattern. In the
90-150mm range there are cheap offerings from every manufacturer with
costs from $200-$600 but the real quality comes from Russian
manufacturer Intes-Micro who make Monster-Maks with apertures of up to
400mm (it'll be no surprise to you that Dimitry Maksutov was Russian).
I don't need anything so large, 130mm or thereabouts would give me
enough extra aperture to exceed the light gathering of my refractor and
I was spoiled for choice from the big three - Meade's 125mm ETX,
Orion's 127mm Apex, Celestron's C130, but being a cheapskate I was
attracted to the Konus 130 which has been selling from reputable
dealers on eBay and astromart. I picked up a lightly
used OTA on
astromart for $200, many dealers are selling the Konus scope with a
motorised mount for about $500, and it appears that a lot of people are
buying the package and later selling the scope. So you can pick up one
of these on your favourite used gear site for a relatively small amount
of cash, and if you're prepared to work around, or overlook, some
issues then you'll get an excellent planetary scope for your small
investment.
The Real Costs of Saving Money
Issues, yes there are a few, but underneath the rough edges there are
decent optics that you can benefit from and in my case the benefit to
my wallet is much appreciated. While it has the Konus name on the
packaging it's made by the same Chinese manufacturer that produces the
Celestron C130, if the words 'used' and 'Konus' don't instill
confidence then you can pick up the Celestron scope new for $320 (still
$80 cheaper than the Orion Apex), this might prove prudent since the
scope doesn't exude an air of quality and I wouldn't be surprised if my
good example is far from the norm.

The bare tube, as I received it.
Anyway, if you haven't guessed by now the 130 in the name refers to
130mm of aperture, that's the size of the
corrector lens, I can't measure the primary mirror without completely
disassembling the tube so I can't easily determine if it's truly a
130mm
scope. The focal-ratio is f/15.4 for a focal length of 2000mm (long
even
for a MCT) folded into a scope only 400mm long and weighing under 4kg,
so it rides effortlessly on my SkyView Pro mount and would be eminently
usable on lighter mounts. The main tube is metal, painted blue and with
a 'Konus Motormax' logo on the side, the logo comes even without the
mount, the tube has a dovetail bar secured to it which worked on my
mount with no modifications required, and a small dovetail holder for
the supplied 10x50 finder scope is secured to the top of the tube. The
rear of the tube is almost all plastic and includes a 1.25" eyepiece
holder at 90º and a straight through location for the attachment
of thread on optical components. A flip mirror system lets you swap
quickly between these while observing with little more than an
adjustment to the focuser, I was really attracted to this feature
since my efforts at imaging planets using a webcam were always hindered
by the difficulty in getting the planet into the tiny FOV of the CCD,
usually involving swapping back and forth between an eyepiece and the
camera while making adjustments to the pointing. It's usually sold as a
spotting scope so it comes bundled with a 45º correcting prism
that screws onto the back, and for another $25 there's a T-adapter for
photography
that'll attach to the rear cell.

The plastic back showing the focus knob, mirror lever,
and eyepiece
adapters at 90º and 45º
The front of the scope reveals the concave corrector with a
bluish tinge from the coatings, the corrector is labelled as
'multi-coated', rather than 'fully-multi-coated', the Maksutov design
should only have 2 refracting surfaces in the corrector, so I'm
wondering if one of those surfaces is less transmissive than it could
be? While I've learned to look for the 'fully-multi-coated' phrase I've
been more than happy with the performance of my plain old
'multi-coated' refractor, so I'm sure this'll be no big deal. The front
corrector assembly is held in place by a few small screws which
supposedly allow adjustment of the alignment, I sincerely hope I never
need to touch these. No dew shield was included, I constructed one
myself out of sheet plastic and it performed admirably, and for a small
sum of cash there are a number of compatible after-market dew shields
available.
Looking down the scope through
the spherical corrector plate.
The First Night on a Cheap Date
The first night out was a couple of days before full moon with
Jupiter
in the western sky hovering over my neighbours rooftop and disappearing
fast. Even through the turbulent air I could appreciate there was a
definite improvement in the view compared to my other scope, no
observable chromatic aberration lent the view a 'warmer' feel, or maybe
that was just the thermally induced turbulence? It was certainly a more
relaxed experience with the focus being found easily and no extra
optics being needed, I can't honestly say that I saw any more detail in
the giant planet on that night, but it was an easier experience than I
was used to. People talk about image shift being an issue, where
adjusting the focus can have the side effect of moving the visual
field, and this is observable but certainly not an issue, in fact the
cheap R&P focuser on my refractor shows similar shift when it has
heavy optics attached to it, so no drawbacks there.
Turning to the moon however a couple more problems were discovered,
firstly I painfully discovered that the finder scope is just too darn
close to the 90º eyepiece holder, I managed to poke my left eye
with it as I craned my neck around to position my eye, now I have a
homemade visual back this isn't a problem any more, but for a moment
that was all I cared about. Having figured out how to situate myself
and observe the moon I noticed that the scope had slipped out of focus,
there's definitely a fair amount of play in the focus and pointing the
scope towards zenith apparently causes the main mirror to settle enough
that it may need adjustment when slewing the scope around the sky, not
a huge adjustment, but enough that you want to make sure you not doing
long exposure imaging with it (however, lets face it, anyone who can
afford the gear for such long exposures probably isn't doing it through
a $200 scope from eBay).
Once focused the moon looks jaw droppingly good,
it was well clear of any rooftops and the air was much cleaner, the
lowest magnification 1.25" eyepiece I own is a 25mm Plossl providing
80x magnification and a field of view which barely contained the
earth's nearest neighbour. I stepped up the magnifications using my
limited eyepiece collection and peaked at x222, the next step up would
be X333 with a 6mm eyepiece and this was clearly beyond the limits of
the optics and seeing, perhaps if I had some eyepiece in the correct
range I would find a useful magnification in that untested range. The
moon showed up a slight yellowish cast to the optics, no doubt a result
of those blue coatings on the front, it's very slight, a lot less than
you would see with a minus-V filter, but it's probably enough to
annoy some people. With
my small observing time window running out (I had to put my daughter
Skye to bed) I headed outside the solar system for some quick optical
tests on bright stars, this was a pleasantly uneventful experience with
clean diffraction rings and no observable CA, at least everything
looked fine and in order to my uncritical eyes, at high magnification
the scope easily outperforms my refractor. Happy with my first night, I
headed inside and read some of 'The
Little Prince' to send Skye to
sleep.

The 6x10-9
Billion Dollar Scope (Upgrade)
After first light, I spent a few hours on weekends making some changes
to the back of the scope to adapt it to my requirements, the money I
saved up front had to be paid with using a little mechanical effort.
The threaded ring on the rear isn't a standard type like those found in
most Schmidt-Cassegrains, this is smaller and as far as I can tell the
45º diagonal and T-Adapter are the only things I can get which
fit. This has a number of implications, firstly, you're stuck with
1.25" eyepieces, secondly, when using those eyepieces you either have
to use the internal flip mirror or the 45º prism, the optical
quality of both these devices is severely lacking. I've read about
various third parties producing compatible visual backs for the scope,
but I have no experience with these and can't make any recommendations,
instead I disassembled the diagonal, spent a few dollars on plumbing
supplies, and constructed a homemade 2" adapter. The actual light path
is smaller than 2", but I needed a 2" adapter for my diagonal and
filters, I'm sure if you only wanted a 1.25" adapter you could save a
few cents on smaller plumbing supplies.

To build my own adapter I disassembled the diagonal for
the screw on
retaining ring.
It fits neatly inside some 2" plumbing supplies and screws onto the
back
of the relescope.
My homemade 2" adapter allows me to use a better quality diagonal in
place of the poor quality 45º diagonal which is included.
The direct optical path is also covered
by a small piece of glass for
some bizarre reason, the glass is pretty thick and doesn't appear to
feature any anti-reflection coatings so it introduces all sorts
of
internal reflections, although many users might not notice since these
would be compounded by the 45º prism and therefore only use it on
terrestrial targets. I can't really fathom the purpose of this, if it
were intended as a seal to avoid dust entering the optical system then
why isn't there a similar glass seal covering the other eyepiece
socket, or better still why not cover the port into the main tube? It's
a simple matter to remove the 3 screws that hold on the plastic back
and unscrew the glass seal, and there's a definite improvement in the
definition when looking at bright targets, it may be prudent to find a
better seal to cover the port into the primary optical cavity.
Disassembling the rear of the Konus scope was pretty easy, but I've
read some reports which indicate this is one way that the Celestron
model differs, people have had to resort to attacking the focus knob
with power tools to remove it and then taken a chisel to the glass
seal, the simple modification I made may be a lot harder on the
Celestron C130.

Close up of the rear cell, the thread size is non
standard and the
glass seal is a thick piece of uncoated glass!

To remove the glass seal
- first
remove the focus knob.

Unscrew the 3 screws

The back should come off easily.

The flip mirror provides a built in diagonal for astronomical viewing

To get at the seal you need to make sure you flip the internal mirror
out of the way.

Unscrew the retaining ring.

And the glass seal will come out, say goodbye to some of those nasty
internal reflections!
While the back is off I should also
point out the 3 screws used to
align the primary mirror, these are only accessible while the back is
off and are secured with loctite to make sure you don't mess around
with them by accident, and because the back is off you need to find
some way too secure an eyepiece or other collimation tool while you're
adjusting things. You're pretty much stuck with the collimation unless
you want to void your warranty, so I'm glad that mine came with as
close to perfect collimation as I've seen in any scope I've used, even
after getting shipped across the country and the box getting a big dent
in the packaging the alignment is still spot on. If you're an
incorrigible tweaker it's possible to modify the plastic back, either
to add externally accessible bolts, or simply drill holes through the
plastic to make the screws accessible with the back and optical
adapters attached. For the moment I'm not nearly so courageous and
while similar scopes provide easier access to adjust the collimation,
none of the manufacturers encourage the end user to make such
adjustments.

The back of the tube proper, the screws and bolts can be
used by
fearless scope hackers to collimate the primary mirror.
New and Improved, But Still Cheap
Having eliminated the
impediments to performance associated with the
plastic back I can report that these are well worth your time, the
improvements over the flip mirror or the 45º diagonal bring
clearer views and better colour definition, the cheap scope becomes
competitive with other scopes and becomes suitable for my original
photographic intentions. But curious to see how competitive it was I
secured a couple of friends to meet up in a dark field and have a good
old cat fight, for comparison we secured a Meade ETX 125 with UHTC
coatings and an Orion 102mm StarMax, hardly a fair match, but they
should
have been glad that my friend with his 14" RCX400 had better things to
do. To cut a long story short, the Konus held up well, there was little
difference in terms of optical aberrations and the light gathering was
better than the smaller Orion, but lagged behind the Meade with its
improved coatings, but we have to remember I paid less for mine than
either of my friends, so I certainly won points in the 'bang for your
buck' stakes. While the comparison wasn't so close it did give me a
real chance to confirm that the optics on the Konus were at least as
good as those from other companies.
So, what kind of views did I get? Well it's time for that telescope
review cliché - the list of familiar targets and some comments
on how
well the instrument wrangled those long travelled photons into my eye.
- M57 - The Ring Nebula
- showed up features I'd never seen
when I
used a narrowband light pollution filter, by turning my head I could
see variations in the shape and brightness of the ring. An extra inch
of aperture wasn't nearly enough to let me get a handle on the central
star.
- While I was in the neighborhood I made the traditional
pilgrimage
to the Lyra's Double-Double
for
testing a new scope, it easily resolved all of
the components, even at the lowest magnification available to me both
pairs were easy splits.
- With M13 I
certainly discerned a number of stars which had
never
been visible in my other scope, a myriad of stellar points resolved
themselves out of the fuzzy core, frankly I was amazed by the
difference that 1" of aperture made, and perhaps the more focused
points made fainter stars easier to resolve.
- Comet SWAN was
nearing closest approach to the Earth and
put on a
good show with an intensely concentrated coma showing the barest hints
of the blue-green colour which photos had shown. Sadly, I couldn't pick
out any real evidence of a tail, however the comet's motion against the
surrounding stars was apparent at the range of magnifications offered
by the scope and eyepieces.
- M31 - Andromeda - I
lacked the aperture to discern anything
more
than the core, but the steep cutoff in brightness caused by the most
prominent dust lane was visible, the magnification was much higher than
I'd usually use and I think that made it easier for me to pick out one
well known feature, but the miniscule field of view doesn't lend itself
to observation of this giant target.
- M45 - Pleiades -
don't bother, forget this cluster in any
scope
which doesn't have a wide field of view, the stars were all wonderfully
resolved but I was glad to have my refractor around to appreciate this
classic target.
- M42 - The Great Nebula in
Orion showed far more of the
nebular
structure than I'd ever seen in my refractor, the extra aperture made a
small difference for sure, the four components of the Trapezium were
ridculously easy to split, even at the lowest magnification available
to me they were all present and correct, I'd like to think I glimpsed
one of the fainter Theta components in the cluster. Orion was pretty
low in the sky, but I spent a lot of my time on it, comparing the shape
of the nebula under different filters and magnifications.
No planets were visible
from that dark site on that night,
but
the pressure to give it a go against a planet in good conditions had me
up early in the morning before the sky had started to brighten and Saturn was high in the sky, Saturn
was magnificent, a joy to behold the
air was still and the rings were well defined all the way up to x222
magnification. Talking about the views through a scope is all well and
good, but I made a serious attempt at imaging the planet so I could
actually show you what can be seen, the seeing wasn't as stable as I'd
like, but I'm quite happy with this first attempt.

In Summary, pinpoint stars, apo-like chromatic aberration, small
aperture and high magnifications make this great for the moon and
planets, adequate for bright compact DSO's and completely rubbish for
any extended or faint targets.
These observations are hardly surprising for a small aperture MCT, my
suspicions regarding its near ubiquitous presence on eBay were largely
unfounded and the telescope has surpassed those low expectations and
proved to have decent optics. The one part
that failed to live up to expectations was the flip mirror system which
turned out to be inadequate for my purposes, centering a small object
in one eyepiece and flipping the mirror will show a significant
displacement in the centering, placing a planet in the tiny CCD of the
camera still requires a bit of sky scanning to get right. The
deflection
from centre is similar for both the supplied diagonal and my homemade
adapter indicating that it's likely to be a problem with the mirror
alignment, I'm hoping to find a way to adjust this but that may
turn out to be a harder task than collimating
the primary, so I'm prepared to live with it. The plastic back also has
a bit of give to it, this translates to a small amount of flex in the
rear cell, If you hang a heavy camera off the back it might be an
issue, although the mirror motion is probably comparable in magnitude.
Perhaps if you're a real believer in the optics you could discard the
plastic back altogether and attach your own adapter to the back of the
tube, that way you'd only have to deal with the settling of the
primary.
Summary: A Great Deal For The Right Buyer
That's
really the theme for this
scope, you may pay half the price of a
similar scope from a more reputable manufacturer, but you have to spend
a small amount of effort to make it truly competitive. From my point of
view I think it was a great buy and tuning the scope up was quite an
enjoyable experience in and of itself, the total cost was $200
(including shipping) for the tube, $5.39 for the plumbing parts and
maybe 2 hours of actual work on the adapter and the back of the tube.
For me it's a perfect complement to my refractor, for imaging its a
logical progression in the range of focal lengths in my collection
(205mm, 600mm and now 2000mm), and unlike a long focus
refractor/newtonian it rides comfortably on my mount and tracks with
enough precision to make DSLR imaging possible. I'll be happy, until
the day I can afford something with more aperture.
And so,
to wrap up, here's the balance sheet
Good
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Bad
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- Decent optics in main tube
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- Glass seal and flip mirror are poor
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- Compact and light with a standard dovetail bracket
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- Non Standard thread adapter.
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- Flip Mirror system helps with imaging
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- Terrible at faint and extended objects.
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If you're strapped for cash, halfway handy and looking for a planetary
scope then this might just be what you're looking for, and if you don't
have a mount then the package might be worthy of your consideration and
perhaps hard earned cash. However most peoples needs are outside this
group and it is a poor choice for a beginners scope it's more of a
niche scope, a niche that is as narrow as
its field of view. There's an established practise of slapping an
Italian name on Chinese manufactured goods, it doesn't magically make
them any better.
And before anyone asks - if I have another kid, they're not going to be
called Konus.
Scott
Manley, November 2006
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