CN-- Lighting Code Presentation
Posted 30 April 2009 - 07:17 PM
Made the first order today. Just wanted you to know. Jeff
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Posted 30 April 2009 - 08:51 PM
Jeff, Welcome to Cloudy Nights! It's an honor to have you join us on these forums, especially this one!
Posted 01 May 2009 - 08:32 AM
Still have relatives living there.
Posted 17 July 2009 - 07:29 AM
Macro----- absolutely!!! you can use anything posted here ... and you may freely COPY IT, and-or ALTER IT,and use it any way you wish! All documents and spreadsheets are in the "Public Domain" ---- and both myself and Morg have given permission within this posting.
I still stand beside my "What we really need" post, in that, having worked in sales, getting the time to give a presentation like this to anyone in a position to do anything about it (and get them to pay attention) is hard enough when it's something they're already asking for. It's a good presentation, but you need to have them interested enough to not tune it out.
For that, the most attention-grabbing, thought provoking (from the bottom-line standpoint of cost vs return on investment) should be distilled down into a handout no larger than a trifold brochure with a few pretty pictures and a chart or two.
We tried to get one or two of these (different versions, each with a slightly different approach)into each potential client's hands well before the presentation to guide their questions in a useful direction and preempt certain concerns. By letting the brochures "rope them in," so to speak, we had them wanting to hear, and to participate in the presentation to fill out the information they had already received.
Unfortunately, I'm way behind the times on developing these things, but surely someone here took some graphic design and marketing classes, and could base something off of the existing material.
Posted 11 October 2009 - 06:12 PM
Have an interesting situation here in Lee County, FL.
They have budgeted and turned off some street lights, but the impact was not realized and now there is an outcry to turn them back on. Considering hitting the County Commissioners with some IDA stuff and links, especially as the are going to be working on more long term plans too. Some of them are very environmental minded. I think they need a little info before they turn back on these glare bombs. I know one of the area's they are heavy on getting back on, used to have an observatory off Daniel's in the late 70's/early 80's with 6.5+ skies, now it is in the heart of the light pollution.
Posted 11 October 2009 - 07:42 PM
for Stephenville TX ------ hey don't you folks have an alien buried in the cemetery!
ALSO-- I emailed "Morg" about the broken spreadsheet links.
Posted 11 October 2009 - 09:18 PM
Something I can point them to without worrying about email filters!
Posted 11 November 2009 - 11:28 AM
KD5NRH made an excellent recommendation in this thread of having a summary flyer or handout, either with this presentation or as a stand-alone product.
Posted 11 November 2009 - 11:52 AM
Also, there are solid studies out there that challenge the "more light is better" notion for crime (the Chicago alleys study comes to mind).
We would be more than pleased if you care to post these studies for all to have access to.
Posted 12 November 2009 - 09:32 AM
I really don't appreciate your comment "in Joe's Opinion". Morg and myself worked on this because nothing at all was available on the internet that could be used as a starting point for a presentation. SO------- get to work altering it and then repost your "improved" copy here.
PS- we already posted the link to the IDA brochures which you can download and print out -- see the previous link. These are tri-fold brochures on light pollution. Here is the link again:
Posted 12 November 2009 - 09:47 AM
Here are a few easily located in about 30 seconds of work using Google-
http://www.newtonma....7/lightson.html a good one
http://www.cityofirv...ting_basics.asp and another good one
http://home.cogeco.c...nia Savings.htm and actual savings in costs
Posted 12 November 2009 - 10:49 AM
Joe, you know we really appreciate the extensive work you (& Morg) did, in order to have something that others could use in a presentation! Your geneosity in sharing all your work with the CN members has helped many!
Posted 12 November 2009 - 11:13 AM
Posted 12 November 2009 - 12:34 PM
Posted 25 December 2009 - 08:33 PM
But, independently, I've come up with the idea of using shielded lighting ALONG WITH motion-detectors, so the SHIELDED LIGHTS will only come on when prompted by the motion detector !! Doubly efficient !!
Common sense tells me that these won't work in all applications, but I'm SURE they can be used in MANY applications !! I'm also sure that, as with many things, as we put them to practical use, we will "Fine tune" or "tweak" design so they are even MORE efficient, and have even GREATER application toward being used EVERYWHERE !!
My most prominent idea for use would be as common streetlights. Most streetlights are on one side of the road or another (some are in the middle of the road). The motion-detector on streetlights on EACH side of the road can be aimed UP the road toward approaching cars, so the light would come on BEFORE the car got there, and illuminate vision for the driver !! Of course, after the car moved on, the light would go out. WHAT A SAVINGS IN ELECTRICITY THIS WOULD ACCOMPLISH !!!
Of course, the lights would have to be kept in a "ready" state, to come on quickly, to make this practical (sort of like a pilot light, on a stove).
Any ideas, from anyone ?
Posted 26 December 2009 - 09:18 AM
I agree motion sensor shielded LED lights would save bunches of money. Probably would not work in central city-- but WOULD WORK in the suburbs and smaller towns.
Posted 26 December 2009 - 11:34 AM
Don't forget that the International Dark Sky Association has other information sheets and hand-outs located on their web site: http://www.darksky.o...itePageId=58823
The CN light pollution document links are listed below:
Please refer to the links above for the original presentation, model code, and Excel Spreadsheets to estimate energy cost savings. The last two links document the Excel Spreadsheets and are in two formats: as a PDF, and as a WORD document.
Also the IDA and the Illuminating Engineers will probably be releasing their LP suggested property CODE this next year(2010). This will give you another resource for local presentations on lighting code revision.
Clear Skies! Joe & Morg
Posted 07 February 2010 - 02:51 PM
You put together a great presentation and arguement. I have worked in the Sign/Lighting industry for years and have always pushed the benefits of energy savings to offset any fixture cost.
I have a problem with light pollution in my small town in Michigan and would like to be able to use your documentation if that's ok.
Posted 08 February 2010 - 10:11 AM
Posted 31 October 2012 - 06:02 PM
Hope this helps you and clear skies to everyone.
Posted 04 December 2012 - 06:50 AM
Accept the last four ,so Im saving them to my puter immediately, lol