Pentax pcf wp vs wp2 vs Nikon AE?
Posted 18 May 2008 - 06:07 PM
Does anyone have any experience with the new Pentax binos, and how do they stack up against the Nikons...or should I just wait and try to find a used pair of Pentax PCF'S.
Posted 18 May 2008 - 08:42 PM
Can't speak to your ? on comparison,but have an original wp pair of these and they're not bad.
Posted 19 May 2008 - 04:40 AM
Posted 19 May 2008 - 10:09 AM
Did you see eagle optics sale on the 8x40 pcf wp @$79 shipped?
Well, they haven't made the PCF WP in several years, but AFAIK, old binoculars don't go stale. that's a very good price.
Posted 19 May 2008 - 10:22 AM
includes Pentax PCF III 12x50 and Nikon AE 12x50, 10x50 and 8x40 among other 10x50s
CN Report: Small Binocular Reports A Dozen 8's
includes Garrett Apo 8x42 roof, Celestron Regal 8x42 roof, Fujinon BFL 8x42, Nikon Action Extreme 8x40, Nikon Action 8x40, Pentax PCF WP II 8x40, Bushnell Legend 8x42 roof, Oberwerk Mariner 8x40, Garrett Classic 8x45, Nikon SE 8x32
Small Binocular Reports: The 10 x 50s
includes Nikon SE 10x42, Garrett Genesis 10x50, Pentax PCF WP 10x50, Orion Ultraview 10x50, Nikon AE 10x50, Oberwerk 10x50, Bushnell Legend 10x50, Nikon Action VII 10x50, Leupold WR Mesa10x50, Oberwerk Mariner 10x60, Fujinon FMT-SX 10x50
Posted 19 May 2008 - 10:27 AM
By the way, they are now out of stock on the sale binos.
Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:13 PM
Nick, I just got a call. You and I got the last two.
Cool ed. I wasn't paying very close attention when reading your CN Report on the 8's and didn't realize you were comparing the Pentax PCF WP II. Maybe you could tell us the difference when you get your pair. I guess I'm glad I was rushing through though since I was able to snag a pair instead of missing out due to over-analyzing it as usual. Afterwards I Google'd a bit for reviews of the originals and didn't find anything except they are considered a "classic" bino and seem to have a positive reputation.
Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:22 PM
Posted 19 May 2008 - 03:16 PM
I wouldn't ecpect to see much difference between the WP and the WPII.
Oh. Okay. That isn't what I would have expected but will be glad if it's true. Kind of the difference between The Nikon Action and AE is what I was expecting since the price difference is comparable. What did the PCF WP's go for a year ago? Do you know?
Posted 20 May 2008 - 04:17 AM
The WP 10x50 sold for $179
the WP II 8x40 sold for $149
I've already owned the WP16x60 and
Posted 20 May 2008 - 03:02 PM
Posted 22 May 2008 - 07:20 PM
(this isn't scientific at all)
Clunky design. The eyepieces don't sit in-line with the rest of the body, like most binos. The focus-lock feature is nice. The click-stop right diopter is annoying.
Narrow AFOV. Stars were showing signs of mis-collimation. I covered up one side of the binocular to check out individual images. Same flaring/seagull images at focus and outside of focus.
Returned the binocular to Eagle Optics.
Still searching for a handheld upgrade from my Nikon Action 8x40...
Posted 23 May 2008 - 08:00 AM
Posted 20 July 2008 - 04:41 PM
Pentax PCF WP 8x40
has much more balanced light beam (laser test) than WP II
has more reflective coatings than WP II
weighs 29 oz.
has push/pull eyecups and seems to stay at intermediate positions
right diopter is clickstop twist hard eyecup assembly
Pentax PCF WP II 8x40
has a bit finer resolution than WP
light bam (laser test) shows significant tilt in optical axis
has less reflective coatings than WP
has greater total light transmission (light meter)
weighs 31 oz
has twist out hard eyecups with one intermediate notch
right diopter is clickstop sliding lever assembly under eyecup
internal barrel baffeling in both is identical
prism housing/ shelf assemblies are identical
IPD is identical 56.5-74
very little pincushion is identical
both measure 38-39mm of utilized aperture
fov is identical or at least nearly so
So, it appears the major changes from the WP up to the WP II were; upgraded coatings, slightly different eyepieces changed power, completely different right diopter mechanical function, different eyecups and a slight weight gain.