does the SVP have a polar alignment scope?
It's an option, not stock.
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Posted 10 September 2009 - 11:08 AM
talk about one eyed facts. True, it takes a few minutes to align and setup a GOTO mount, but once it's done, you're generally going to be a LOT quicker at finding things than with a manual setup.
Do some of you guys simply eschew automated functionality simply because you're backwards and old fashioned I wonder?
Having GOTO is especially nice with fainter, hard to see objects. And if the OP wants to get into astro imaging later on down the track, GOTO is a boon as well.
Bashing something just because you want to be anachronistic isn't wise imho.
me too! My equatorial mount is always in "manual" mode.
By the time others are done aligning their GOTO mounts I"ve already viewed several DSOs.
Posted 10 September 2009 - 04:25 PM
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Posted 11 September 2009 - 12:07 AM
So, you're implying that GOTO is a waste of time by your post it seems. I mean, why use GOTO when you can do it manually, so much quicker (please note sarcasm in my tone). Sorry, but you ain't everyone. You're one person. If non GOTO floats your boat, fine, but to carry on and act like manual mounts are the ONLY way to go, which is what it seems many in this thread have done, is ridiculous. It's a tool, use it. That's my motto. Eschewing modern technology just to make a point of "look at me, I'm good" is rather egotistical imho, aka as a pi$$ing contest in Aussie land. I won't say what most Aussies think of those types of people.
Posted 11 September 2009 - 02:42 AM
All of the examples you just gave are worthless and irrelevant because none of the "outdated" options you sarcastically deride (except possibly the cooking one) actually teaches a useful fundamental skill. Using a turntable doesn't teach you to listen to music any better, driving a horse and cart doesn't teach you how to get to a destination any faster, boiling bathwater over an open fire doesn't get you any cleaner, and using non-voicemail home phones doesn't let you communicate any better. On the other hand, learning how to use a manual equatorial mount with no GoTo WILL make you a better astronomer, even if (when?) you eventually step up to GoTo.
I could go on and on...and on. Deliberately not taking advantage of technology that makes life easier as a user is just silly and being old fashioned.
GOTO mounts have made it a lot easier for people to get into astronomy, and that is a *good* thing. I guarantee you that if we all reverted back to your old fasioned way of thinking, the number of people getting into astronomy, and astro imaging, would be tiny by current numbers.
This isn't intended as a personal attack Luigi, I'm trying to use some solid examples of ordinary technology that we mostly take for granted, and use, instead of doing things the "old" way.
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Posted 15 September 2009 - 06:11 AM
MY,MY, folks aint we having fun here ? 8 ball says different stroks fer different folks. ifen you dont like one gets the other. lookin is whats counts.
...silly and being old fashioned.
...you're backwards and old fashioned...
...feeble dependence on technology...
Posted 15 September 2009 - 12:53 PM
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Posted 16 September 2009 - 06:06 PM
Ok everyone, I made it out tonight before the clouds made it in. I aligned with Polaris and swung to the south (Vega was buried in clouds) and found a bright star to align with and set the RA and Dec. After this I tried to hit Casseopeia. If I didn't have a 90, I would have been peering through the legs of the tripod. So I failed in getting this set correctly.
In aligning on Polaris without a polar scope, I tried my best to center it within the scope mounting hole. By this Thursday, that hole will be holding a polar scope. I know this will help in getting closer to the objects, but if I am resting my cheek against the tripod I am in deeper trouble than I thought.
I may have swapped the upper and lower numbers of RA when I set up the southern star, and switched back again going back north. The other question is how do I determine what is postive or negative on Dec?
Maybe I need to resign myself to star hopping and be done with it til I get a goto system, or scrap the mount and get an altaz. Either way the frustration point has been found.
Posted 16 September 2009 - 07:24 PM
Oh, my God man, rejoice in your mistake. You have blundered into an intelligent, excellent set up.
Posted 16 September 2009 - 08:10 PM
Posted 17 September 2009 - 03:35 AM
No, will - you just prompted me to say something because you noticed it and commented on it. You've done nothing wrong.
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