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#1 starbob1

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 05:28 PM

This looks like a pretty neat mount.

http://www.vixenopti.../AXD Mount.html

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 06:28 PM

I wonder if the new starbook will work with the SXD model..

Hopefully Vixen irons out the bugs before releasing this model.

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 06:46 PM

Oh, I see it's for the "discriminating astronomer."

That lets me out.

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Posted 02 February 2010 - 07:16 AM

...Someone else's mount is too!

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Posted 02 February 2010 - 01:05 PM

Did you see the other mount?
http://www.vixenopti...unts/gaiax.html

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Posted 02 February 2010 - 01:56 PM

I would imagine that the Gaiax is a fine mount but the price is way off, I mean you could buy an AP 900 and TEC scope and still have money left over for just the cost of the Vixen mount alone, to me there is no decision.

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#7 drksky

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Posted 02 February 2010 - 03:25 PM

"A New Standard for the Discriminating Astronomer"

That came up in another thread. I hate that phrase.

What it usually means is as long as money is not object, this is for you. Everyone else can suck it.

#8 AlbertoJ

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Posted 07 February 2010 - 04:40 AM

When will AXD mount be available for sale?

#9 starbob1

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Posted 07 February 2010 - 09:42 AM

I heard summer sometime. :jump:

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Posted 07 February 2010 - 12:55 PM

I dunno, I like the idea of an Indiscriminant Astronomer! Ah yes, while others carefully take images of nebulas with the cameras calibrated to specific spectrographic colors, the Indiscriminant Astronomer doesn't give a flip about what he takes images of, if anything. He might just pop orange and green filters he found laying around just to see what he gets. Does he give a care about image quality? Heck No! He just posts whatever he gets. Sometimes he doesn't even bother to weed out images with bad tracking, or even align the images he takes. He just stacks with wild abandon!

Mounts? Well, the dream mount is made from the left rear axle from a 1994 Dodge Caravan. You can fill in the rest.

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"A New Standard for the Discriminating Astronomer"

That came up in another thread. I hate that phrase.

What it usually means is as long as money is not object, this is for you. Everyone else can suck it.



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Posted 07 February 2010 - 01:42 PM

Silly me. I thought that these were mounts being targeted at bigots! :lol:

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#12 Fred1

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 12:06 AM

When will AXD mount be available for sale?


The ad in the link of the OP's original post says "Fall 2010."

#13 AlbertoJ

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 12:12 PM

Yes, I saw it, but, what does Fall 2010 mean?
Is it the Autum, the start or the end of 2010?

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 05:34 PM

Yes, I saw it, but, what does Fall 2010 mean?
Is it the Autum, the start or the end of 2010?


Probably all of it... and likely, even that is tentative.

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 07:48 AM

In this hobby, that means end of 2011 ;)

#16 starbob1

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 02:06 PM

I hear it could be late summer.The price is around $8k from Vixen Optics. :bawling: For that amount I think I would get a AP mount and never worry again :bow: .But the new Vixen does have some groundbreaking Software. :lol:

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 02:13 PM

Yes, I saw it, but, what does Fall 2010 mean?
Is it the Autum, the start or the end of 2010?


English speaking nations call it Autumn, Americans call it Fall :grin: :grin: :grin:

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and by the way dear fellow, I am English!

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 02:49 PM

When you get to $8000+, there are a few good mounts to choose from, with AP on the list for sure!
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 10:24 PM

Vixen has excellent quality control and I suspect is a bigger operation (worldwide) than some of the names near and dear to us, like AP or Losmandy. Although I won't be selling my AP or my Losmandy mounts, I'm glad to see Vixen making these offers. Greg N

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 08:01 AM

I have a sxd mount and have been very pleased not only with the mount, but also with their customer support. I have found the quality control to be excellent and the craftmanship to be excellent. If I had a permanent observatory, I would not hesitate to get this mount for it. Just my 2 cents.

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 10:55 AM

I have both a Sphinx as a grab and go mount, and an Atlux on a permanent pier, got both secondhand and love them!

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 09:49 AM


I note the GAIAX is still listed - I searched for two years - never found a single site or serious amateur using one, nor a review of its capabilities. I note it was listsed as controlled by the SkySensor2000 hand controller - so I guess it is a serious bit of kit.

I have a second generation Vixen Atlux controlled by the SkySensor2000-PC salved to a PC, networked to a remote control station, Its performance is impressive. About 20 arc minutes of the SCP I've done 10 mintue test shots with perfectly round starts on a C9.25 (2.3 m focal length) running the mount unguided in polar unaligned mode on three stars - like to see the Starbook do that!

Polar aligned and guided I commonly do 30 - 60 minute shots with beautiful round stars. With MaxPoint all over sky points is better than an arc minutes error (less than 3 arc minutes raw) and PE corrected is +/- 3 arc seconds. Properly set up (using the SS2K) and I've seen surperb tracking with these mounts, including compensation for elevation based refractive index changes and tracking boides with non sideral rates (planets, moon, satellites).

So the AXD looks like it ups the carrying capacity from 25 kgs to 31 kgs but why oh why would anyone want a Starbook versus the way older but far more powerful SS2K? I don't understand why the Starbook has so much less capability and performance than the 12+ year old SS2K?


A good review of the Starbook vs SS2K was done here http://www.groupeast...B_V1.02.doc.pdf

Unfortunately for all of us the Starbook is a kids toy next to the SkySensor2000-PC.

#23 MySchizoBuddy

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 02:09 PM

perhaps they will launch StarBook Pro that will have all the missing features. :)

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Posted 12 May 2010 - 04:39 PM

Hi Mark,
I have both. One is the Atlux and the other is the modded CI700H. The advantage with the starbook is the cable, all the power drivers, board and such is located inside the mount. I can run the starbook 30' away. The SSK has problems with voltage drop running the same distance. I like both. but The SSK is still one of the most advance controllers in the market, allowing a nonpolar alignment.
The Starbook is like most other controllers in basic function. The starbook during visual use, the display comes in handy, remotely the software takes over. The SS2K does does not have a display, sometimes cable issues, but overall excellent performance. After polar alignment both offer the same performance to me.

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Posted 13 May 2010 - 05:20 AM


I think pages 5-8 of the pdf linked to above spell out just how powerful the 14 year old SS2K-PC is versus the Starbook.

I run my gear in a permanent set-up so the control PC is only 10 feet from the mount and hand controller - but I generally have it lights off and run everything from 30 metres away (using VNC over a gigabit network) where its much more comfortable!

The key differences I see are the Starbooks:

1. No wake and instant on from last settings with no impairment of pointing models
2. No ten permanent location settings
3. No non sideral tracking options
4. No accurate non polar aligned tracking compensation capabilities
5. No asteroid or satellite tracking modes
6. No atomspheric tracking corrections, no aberration handling, no parallax compensation for planets
7. No slew torquing (speed up and slow down at variable rates through the slew (slow -> fast -> slow) as you strat, progress then finish a slew to reduce wear on the gears)
8. General reset and power shock protection circuitry - the SS2K is brilliant at this and work is a very wide range of temperatures and humidity faultlessly.

I can't understand why Vixen lobotomised their hand controllers when they had cutting edge achieved almost two decades ago?






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