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#1 Levine

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Posted 17 February 2011 - 04:01 PM

This "Holy Grail" planetary eyepiece is often talked about, but seldom seen.
They apparently have come in many forms over the years. The 10mm f/l is most often referred to, but we know there are others out there.

Show us a picture of yours.
To your eyes, how does it compare to its closest competitors out there?
What era does your example-or examples-come from?

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Posted 17 February 2011 - 04:10 PM

I can't post a pic as I borrowed one for a few months a while back. Basically it bested everything...TMB Supermonos, ZAOs. Best contrast I've ever seen and least scatter (nonexistent) I've ever encountered from any production eyepiece. Focus snap was the best I've ever experienced.

I believe these things break the 3 digit mark in costs. So likely to spend more than a grand for one if you ever were able to find one.

Here's a pic of some FLs of Bill Rose's from another thread here...his 10mm is the one I borrowed -

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Posted 17 February 2011 - 04:20 PM

I can't post a pic as I borrowed one for a few months a while back. Basically it bested everything...TMB Supermonos, ZAOs. Best contrast I've ever seen and least scatter (nonexistent) I've ever encountered from any production eyepiece. Focus snap was the best I've ever experienced.

I believe these things break the 3 digit mark in costs. So likely to spend more than a grand for one if you ever were able to find one.


Your performance and sticker price comments are spot on, based on what I've read... :smirk:

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Posted 17 February 2011 - 05:23 PM

Bill,

More than three digits sounds about right, I know of one being auctioned and it's over $1000 with two days left.

Here's mine:

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Posted 17 February 2011 - 05:35 PM

John,

I know of only two styles. I believe mine is the latter style. I believe the earlier style looks similar to my 10mm ortho - pictured below, only it would have the word "mon." where "orth." is.

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Posted 17 February 2011 - 05:36 PM

VERY NICE!!! :applause: :love: :money:

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Posted 17 February 2011 - 05:45 PM

Here's a pic of some FLs of Bill Rose's from another thread here...his 10mm is the one I borrowed -


..."SOME focal lengths"...! :bigshock: :jawdrop:

Good grief. :foreheadslap:

...how...many...does he have...anyway..? :gotpopcorn:

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Posted 17 February 2011 - 05:52 PM

John,

I know of only two styles. I believe mine is the latter style. I believe the earlier style looks similar to my 10mm ortho - pictured below, only it would have the word "mon."
where "orth." is.


Here is a pic of an even older example from @ 1930's. It is a 40mm model in brass that was featured in the CN classifieds this past July:

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Posted 17 February 2011 - 06:44 PM

Basically it bested everything...TMB Supermonos, ZAOs. Best contrast I've ever seen and least scatter (nonexistent) I've ever encountered from any production eyepiece. Focus snap was the best I've ever experienced.


You mean, it bested the balls?

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Posted 17 February 2011 - 07:15 PM

Basically it bested everything...TMB Supermonos, ZAOs. Best contrast I've ever seen and least scatter (nonexistent) I've ever encountered from any production eyepiece. Focus snap was the best I've ever experienced.


You mean, it bested the balls?


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Posted 17 February 2011 - 08:49 PM

Did not have the balls side by side with the ZMs so can;t say for sure. But I would give up my ball for a ZM I think :lol:

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Posted 17 February 2011 - 09:03 PM

Did not have the balls side by side with the ZMs so can;t say for sure. But I would give up my ball for a ZM I think :lol:


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Posted 17 February 2011 - 09:40 PM

Did not have the balls side by side with the ZMs so can;t say for sure. But I would give up my ball for a ZM I think :lol:


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Posted 18 February 2011 - 12:34 AM

But I would give up my ball for a ZM I think :lol:


LOL...you are funny! But the ball can be easily replaced.

Seriously I also asked him to lend me the ZM so I can compare directly with the ZAO-II and SM, but he didn't respond. Glad you managed to do the comparison.

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 02:21 AM

Ixnay on the allsbay, guys. I hear Carol running down the hall.

So what focal lengths were produced in each style?

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 06:51 AM

But I would give up my ball for a ZM I think :lol:


LOL...you are funny! But the ball can be easily replaced.


Oh yeah?

When's the last time you saw a set of the Coutureball Fused Silica "Pretty in Pink" series??

You haven't.

'Cause I have the ONLY full set.

And it's NOT for sale.

Bwahahahahaha.... :lol:

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 07:33 AM

Nice set you have there!

I happen to have a set of four ball eps too, but these are Lowballs (:

I would be happy to give up this set to anyone who could lend me a ZM6 or ZM10 for me to conduct a series of ep. comparison testing. Seriously.

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 07:56 AM

Nice set you have there!

I happen to have a set of four ball eps too, but these are Lowballs (:


Ugh. Asian knockoffs. :lol:

You'll be hearing from Mr. Couture's attorney forthwith.

Also, expect a visit from his personal representatives, Vinnie and Guido. They supplement his legal team for out-of-court negotiations. :shocked:

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 08:17 AM

Lowballs


Did you say "loveballs"?

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 09:20 AM

Ok guys, please let it go before I get the smackdown for starting this!

So in summary, no one knows if the Zeiss monocentrics perform better than the DIY singlet ball lens eyepieces.

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 10:02 AM

LOL... I had the ball of a time reading your replies, thank you guys!

BillP, could you do another 6mm planetary ep. review and include both the ZM6 and 6mm ball-lens ep?

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 06:15 PM

Any other Zeiss Mono pix out there?

There is a question as to whether a singlet lens could better a ZM of equal focal length in a head to head comparo.
There is some merit to this.
We have had many reports on this forum of singlets besting TMB SM's and ZAO's.
And, in theory, a suitably polished homogeneous substrate should equal or better a fused triplet, regardless of care in construction.
The sweet spot for each would be rather similar.
This has at least one significant implication: ZM performance at 1/10th the cost, in a package that is readily available to all.
Singlets are an accessible do it yourself project, or available through others, such as S. Couture and H. Siebert.

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 07:20 PM

Bought this mint 6mm from someone in China. I was so pleased I asked him if he had others. He said no but he did have a 5mm Nikon Ortho. Bought both with considerable savings from what I would have paid in the States. No, they are not clones:-).

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 08:42 PM

Well the auction for the Zeiss 10mm monocentric has ended. The final bid was nearly $1400. WOW!!

Here is the link: LINK

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 10:38 AM

Holy Smokes! Could be a record for a .965/1.25" eyepiece?? Even higher than the 32mm Zeiss ZAOs usually demand.
I think there is another one up for bidding on German E-Bay.






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