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#1 Catalin Fus

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 11:44 AM

Hi,

my name is Catalin Fus and I'm the co-owner of CFF Telescopes, a business which is a partnership between me and the owner of GPU Optical, Mr Pal Gyulai, in order to offer very high quality OTAs, made entirely in EU (this includes the lenses).
Some of you might have heard about GPU Optical from the reviews present here on the website and from threads in ATM section.

Our website is 'under-construction' and soon we will have telescopes available.
This year we will offer the following :
102mm f6.25 triplets - available
127mm f7 aspheric triplets - available end of May
160mm f6.5 aspheric triplets - available end of October/early Nov

All our tubes/adapters are CNC machined, anodized and/or powdercoated, fully flocked, fully baffled for unvignetted 45mm diameter image circle and with 3 choices of focusers -Moonlite 2.5'', Baader SteelTrack 3'', Starlight FT 3.5''.

Please feel free to ask any questions via email (contact tab on the website in my signature).

Thanks for reading
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#2 Catalin Fus

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Posted 12 April 2011 - 12:11 PM

Hi,

number of OTAs available and prices are as follows :

102mm f/6.25 - 3 (three) with lead time 1 month for building whole OTA - 1890 Euro + VAT for EU citizens
127mm f/7 Aspheric - 3 (three) - end of May I can accept orders for building OTA - price will be around 3800 Euro + VAT for EU citizens
160mm f/6.5 Aspheric - 9 (nine) - end of September/October I can accept orders for building OTA - expected price will be around 6900 Euro + VAT for EU citizens

prices do not include shipping but includes packaging/crating.

Our warranty for all our scopes is 2 years. All tubes and their adapters are made entirely from aluminium alloys.

Thanks for your interest!
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Posted 15 April 2011 - 04:06 PM

Catalin,
are the quoted prices with the feathertouch 3.5" focuser ?
If not, what are the prices with the three different focuser types?
Thanks

#4 Catalin Fus

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Posted 16 April 2011 - 12:34 AM

Hi,

for the 102mm price is with 2.5'' Moonlite as standard offer or I can build using a 3'' Baader Steeltrack which will be the same as price. In my humble opinion, more than 3'' is overkill for this type of telescope.
I have a user who reported only 4% vignetting in the corners of the full-frame CCD he owns, using the design around 2.5'' Moonlite.
As we will not be a manufacturer with big series of telescopes, rather small series of very high quality, I can accept order around any configuration and I might offer 3'' FT for the 102mm, with a small increase in price (around 150E, netto)

For the 127mm AS offer is with 2.5'' Moonlite/3'' Baader Steeltrack also but I can offer it with 3'' or 3.5'' FT for a small difference (150 - 350E).

For the 160mm and bigger sizes, 3.5'' FT will be standard and I will accept orders based on other focusers if a customer needs it mostly for visual and in this case, the price will drop a little (up to 350E netto).

I hope this responds your questions. If you want more details please write me here on in private.

Thank you very much for your interest!
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Posted 29 April 2011 - 06:09 AM

Catalin,

Do you have any estimate for 160 f/6.5 weight?
Thanks.

#6 Catalin Fus

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 10:26 AM

Hi David,

this February I have built a 140/1200 for a friend here in Poland, in the same tubing as the 160s will be put into, so I can give an approximate weight of 10.5kgs, including rings. In my opinion, there is still room for improvement and I hope I will not cross this weight of 10.5 - 11 kgs. Tube will be shorter, I estimate minimum length around 900mm.

I have uploaded infos on the website for all scopes we plan to make this year and a new focal length is available for the 160mm, 160mm f/8.

Thank you for your interest!
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#7 Catalin Fus

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 10:44 AM

Hi,

as I have started to mention in the previous response for David, the website now has been updated and I have organized data in the final form. Pictures and data will be added step by step as we finish scopes.
Price estimation and available focuser options have been uploaded for every model.

We have added also a 160mm f/8 focal length and this will be available together with the 160mm f/6.5 AS.

We can take orders for the 102mm and 127mm.

for the 127 f/7 lens you can find review here, on CN

http://www.cloudynig...hp?item_id=1662

mechanically the scope will be totally different and can be put near best scopes available today without any doubt.

for the 102mm , we will have feedback from previous customers on our website soon.

Thanks for your interest
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Posted 29 April 2011 - 03:42 PM

Catalin, thanks for replay and I will keep my eye on your projects. ;)

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 02:13 PM

Hello again,

after a long absence in which I made some design changes and took 2 projects from zero (127mm and 160mm APOs) I'm able to announce that the 127mm f7 ASpheric project is finished!
Pictures of the redesigned OTAs and all data for 127mm f7 AS refractor will be available on the website soon.

For the 127s and all bigger scopes that will follow, we will offer a click-stop feature on the dewshield.

Another good news is that prices have gone down as follows:

- 100E less for the 102mm f6.3 (last one available) => now is 2219 Euro with 24% VAT which means 1790 Euro netto export.
- 300E less for the 127mm f7 ASpheric => now is 4340 Euro with 24% VAT which means 3500 Euro netto export.

160mm f6.5 ASpheric project is on the right track with first lens/OTA + all data expected to be available by the end of this year.

Thank you for your interest!

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 10:53 AM

Because webmaster is unavailable and pictures + new data will be uploaded later than expected on our website , please find below some useful facts and latest pictures.

102mm f6.3 - 2219 Euro, includes 24% VAT (1790Euro netto)
last one available for sale!!
- 180mm back-focus
- 2.5'' Moonlite focuser
- rings included
- aplanatic oilspaced triplet, built only with Schott glass
- Minimum Length - 50 cm
- Maximum Length - 60 cm
- Weight - 6kgs , including rings

127mm f7 ASpheric - 4340 Euro, includes VAT 24% (3500 Euro netto)
Available in 4-6 weeks.
- 180mm back-focus
- 2.5'' Moonlite / 3'' FT ( + 250 Euro)
- CNC rings included
- click-stop dewshield
- aplanatic oilspaced triplet, built only with Schott glass
- Minimum Length - 76.5 cm
- Maximum Length - 91 cm
- Weight - 7.9 kgs, including rings

Soon, 160mm f6.5 ASpheric!! (End of 2011)

102mm f6.3

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#11 prichardson

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 05:55 PM

Will CFF scopes be available to the US?

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 02:20 AM

Hi,

you can buy directly from us, using netto prices as reference, without problems. In the future , when production / request will need it, a dealer will be found :-).

Thank you,

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 01:55 PM

Hi,

I'll gladly like to inform you that a Yahoo group/forum was open, for all people who already own a GPU Optical lens based OTA, owners of new CFF Telescopes brand and people who might want to join to address us directly (me and my business partner, Mr Pal Gyulai), diferent questions regarding our work.

Name of group is CFF Refractors.

We have added 'reviews' tab on our website, a page that will post feedback from owners.

As new information regarding refractors, the 160mm f6.5 Aspheric will have available a special designed Field Corrector for larger chips. 64mm clear aperture and full frame correction of all aberrations inherent to the triplet lens design.

Thank You for Your Interest!

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 10:19 PM

These look beautiful. I hope I can afford the 160mm one day. Best of luck!

/Ira

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 05:17 AM

Thank You Ira! The same to You :-)!!

Regards,

#16 Catalin Fus

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 03:21 PM

Some small updates :

- the 102mm f6.3 are sold out!
- the price for the 127mm f7 Aspheric will be lowered a little to 3990 Euro, VAT included for EU buyers. Netto price is 3217 Euro or 4182 USD. Rings and hardcase are included in the price. Price given is for 2.5'' Moonlite focuser, for 3'' FT, price will be a little higher.
- the price for the 160mm f6.5 Aspheric has been established at 8560 Euro, VAT included for EU buyers. Netto price is 6900 Euro or 8970 USD. Rings and hardcase are included in the price. Standard focuser option here is 3.5'' Feathertouch. If your option goes for another focuser, like 3'' Feathertouch or 2.5'' Moonlite, price is lower.
- we can take special orders for 160mm f8. Price and options are identical to the 160mm f6.5 Aspheric.
- our Field Corrector will work with both of these 160mm scopes, with minimal difference in space to the imaging chip(4mm). Connection to the focuser is M72 and to the camera is M72 or M68.
- we will start to be present at Fairs and Star-Parties, for the beginning in Europe. I'll give more details when dates and events we'll attend are established.

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 07:39 PM

Is there a general astronomy store in Europe that carries your products? It would be an advantage to those who want to trade in their current scope(s) when buying one of yours.

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Posted 24 January 2012 - 02:45 AM

Mark,

we are in discussions with Robtics, from Netherland. As soon as we'are finishing all details, I'll post here.

We will have also 'trade'in' but only for our products. Maybe we will accept also other items in the trade'in , but they have to be refractors and marketable. We will make a decision about this in the near future.

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:14 AM

I'd be very interested if you had a UK dealer!
Goodluck with your venture.

P.S. I like a lot of Polish heavy metal bands.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 02:47 AM

Thanks!!

Well, for now we have the challenge to present ourselves to the market. After we will have a sufficient request for our products, we will develop a dealer network.

You can contact always contact via e-mail if there are special requests regarding a possible order. We will support our customers in the best way possible I guess :-).

Thanks,

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 01:03 PM

For those of you living in Europe and willing to travel to ATT - Essen, on 5th of May, I will gladly like to inform you that we will be present there with the following items :

1 x 127mm f7 Aspheric
2.5'' Moonlite focuser option, 114mm travel, 180mm back-focus, rings, hardcase.
Price 3710 Euros, including 24% VAT.

1 x 127mm f7 Aspheric
3'' Starlight FT focuser option, 89mm travel, 180mm back-focus, rings, hardcase.
Price 3990 Euros, including 24% VAT.

1 x 160mm f6.5 Aspheric
3.5'' Starlight FT focuser option, 114mm travel, 180mm back-focus, rings, hardcase.
Price 8560 Euros, including 24% VAT.

Field Corrector for 160mm f6.5 - 435 Euros, including 24% VAT.

Outside EU prices, please subtract VAT (24%)

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 04:37 AM

Good to know that you travel to ATT. I hope to meet you there and see your telescopes live. Hope you will bring the 160mm f6.5 with you.

Any news about Robtics' dealership?

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 07:35 AM

Hi,

there will be the 160mm f6.5, just as mentioned above :grin: . You can contact Robtics for more details, they will be of help ;). See you there !!

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 03:54 PM

Any chance of posting some images of the 160 f6.5??

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 01:05 AM

Images will be posted, but in the last part of this month (after 20th of April).

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