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#1 Jef De Wit

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Posted 09 May 2011 - 10:33 AM

Last week I organised a clay-workshop at my local astroclub. The idea for this evening came when I saw (some time ago) the beautiful model of Archimedes by Kraterkid (Richard Handy) here on CN.

I choose crater Tycho as target to model, because I found some very detailed pictures on the internet by the Japanese Selene-mission (Jaxa). Crater Clavius was the second choise (as reserve). While everybody started working on Tycho, I tried Clavius.

With only primitive material (clothes-peg and ballpoint) to work with, no experience with claymodeling (except somewhere in my childhood I guess) and 90 minutes of work, I never thaught to have a such nice result. You have to try it yourself!

I'm still collecting pictures from the the other craters. You will get them soon. Meanwhile, here's already my crater Clavius. Hope you like it.

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Posted 09 May 2011 - 01:50 PM

Jef
Sure is nice to see how the subject of modeling the moon in clay is done. Your brief explanation of the technique is great. I hope to give it a go.
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#3 Rutilus

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Posted 09 May 2011 - 03:03 PM

Jef - Excellent work, reminds me of the work by Nasmyth and his plaster models of the lunar surface. Many of Nasmyth's models are located in the Science museum, Kensington, London.

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Posted 09 May 2011 - 03:46 PM

Wow - really interesting technique and great for a club night. Have never thought about this and would appreciate more on the actual approach.

What do you do with the model after the club night?

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Posted 09 May 2011 - 07:45 PM

Jef,

An outstanding reproduction of the crater Clavius. You have recreated this prominent lunar crater very nicely. Richard Handy has produced similar clay reproductions off lunar craters. Thank you for sharing your project with us all.

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#6 Wouter D'hoye

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 12:50 AM

very nice! I'ts fun to see a totally differnt apporach to astronomy :)

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 09:16 AM

Jef,

Awesome! I have never tried this because it just looked like it might end in total frustration.
That is really great work.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 09:52 AM

Jef,

Very good model, of Clavius Carter :waytogo:.

CS,KLU,

:thanx:,

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#9 Jef De Wit

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 01:30 PM

Thanks to you all! I'm glad it worked out well.

Jef - Excellent work, reminds me of the work by Nasmyth and his plaster models of the lunar surface.


I didn't know of this lunarobserver. Roel send me two of his models on a Dutch sketching forum. Looks great!

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 01:32 PM

What do you do with the model after the club night?

Everybody took his model to home! It takes some time to dry.

#11 Jef De Wit

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 01:36 PM

I have never tried this because it just looked like it might end in total frustration.

I'm sure it will be a masterpiece! In fact it's more easy to model a crater (from a photo) than to sketch a crater at the EP. In daylight the model doesn't look that fantastic, but if you take a photo with some light/shadow-play it looks really great.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 01:37 PM

I never thought of doing this, what a great idea, and an excellent result!

I have done some clay sculpting at work in the past and I found that my results were unexpectedly good, it is a very intuitive and natural thing to do, and you can keep refining the sculpt till you are happy with it.
I think that anyone who is interested in trying to sculpt in clay but assumes their efforts will not be pleasing should have a go. Everyone on this forum is at least a little artistically talented after all. All you need are a few basic tools (improvised is fine) and some good quality clay.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 03:21 PM

Hi Jef,

Fantastic work, it so good to see others trying this technique! I like your step by step tutorial, very nice detail.

I'm sculpting Mare Nectaris now. I'm using the LROC data as well as my own observations. The amount of detail is pretty daunting, but the end result should be interesting.

Erika Rix did a beautiful job on her clay model of Aristarchus and the Vallis Schoteri.

When your clay model is complete you can use it to simulate the way the craters change with a spotlight placed at various angles.

Jef a marvelous sculpture! ;)

#14 Jef De Wit

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Posted 11 May 2011 - 10:07 AM

Chris, thanks!

@ Rich: 100 x thanks, because your beautiful model made me begin with this "experiment". Before I never had thaught about it. Can't wait to see Mare Nectaris....

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Posted 11 May 2011 - 10:57 AM

:bow: Amazing job. And cool outreach activity for kids with easier ones: Copernicus, Gassendi i.e.

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 05:47 AM

:thanx:, Frank.

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 10:51 AM

I like the result - very realistic impression

#18 Jef De Wit

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 08:32 AM

very realistic impression

Thanks! Ok, you can recognize Clavius without any problem, but much of the features are not at the exact location or are not at the exact scale. The same problem as with my moonsketches...

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 01:08 PM

What a lovely,innovative thing to do!!

#20 Jef De Wit

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 08:10 AM

Thanks Paul. I guess Saturn would be a little bit difficult in clay :shrug: Maybe Jupiter or Mars :question: I once considered to make a "Mars-sketch" in Lego :roflmao:

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 08:21 AM

No reason why you couldn't do the Tharsis volcanoes in Clay- lovely region that ;-)






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