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#1 mrpinwheel

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 04:01 AM

how the hell are you to align the mount
it has no polar scope i hope it has auto
alignment like lightswitch it looks great
iv looked every where about the mount
looking for alignment info but i cant
anything.

#2 rmollise

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 08:27 AM

how the hell are you to align the mount
it has no polar scope i hope it has auto
alignment like lightswitch it looks great
iv looked every where about the mount
looking for alignment info but i cant
anything.


How the hell do you align a fork mount SCT on a wedge? ;)

You'll just have to be patient until some are actually in the hands of users or Meade posts the mount's instruction manual on their site. ;)

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 11:18 AM

how the hell are you to align the mount
it has no polar scope i hope it has auto
alignment like lightswitch it looks great
iv looked every where about the mount
looking for alignment info but i cant
anything.

Simply. With the mount/scope in the home position, center Polaris in your eyepiece using the At/Az adjustments. Calibrate the mount. Enjoy visual observing or drift align for AP or use the PA routine. I have no polar scope on my mount and use it all the time. It's an accessory, not a requirement.

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 08:52 AM

how the hell are you to align the mount
it has no polar scope i hope it has auto
alignment like lightswitch it looks great
iv looked every where about the mount
looking for alignment info but i cant
anything.

Simply. With the mount/scope in the home position, center Polaris in your eyepiece using the At/Az adjustments. Calibrate the mount. Enjoy visual observing or drift align for AP or use the PA routine. I have no polar scope on my mount and use it all the time. It's an accessory, not a requirement.

And for southern hemisphere observers with no Polaris? This is when I find the lxd75 polar scope with (very faint) Octans pattern to be extremely useful. Albeit we don't know what the LX80 will be like, but I'd like to have polar scope ability if possible on this mount. Fox

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 08:29 AM

That box structure says to me - mount a finder with a custom reticle! You could even fish the polar scope out of a dead LXD75. I have to admit, I'd miss the polar scope.

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 07:03 PM

from the add that sky and telescope sent me, i believe it said that it was based on lightswitch technology. i could be wrong so i will recheck my email. it may have been referring to the high dollar mount.

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 07:08 PM

sorry. just checked the email. that is the lx800 that is based on the LS technology.

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 09:03 PM

I would guess they have some sort of competitive All Star Polar Alignment routine. I'm very interested in this mount, can't wait for some reviews.

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 10:27 PM

Are they shipping them yet?

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 11:37 PM

I would guess they have some sort of competitive All Star Polar Alignment routine. I'm very interested in this mount, can't wait for some reviews.


it is very interesting. there is i very long thread about it. no reviews from users yet. i think it said november shipping.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 10:49 PM

I've been advised that my LX-80 with 10" SCT will ship Oct 21.

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 02:21 AM

meade really has celestron topped this year
the lx 80 is really going to hurt celestron why
would you want to by a cgem or cgem dx for 1500-2000
dollers when you can buy a mount thats better for
900 dollers.

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 05:20 AM

meade really has celestron topped this year
the lx 80 is really going to hurt celestron why
would you want to by a cgem or cgem dx for 1500-2000
dollers when you can buy a mount thats better for
900 dollers.

Whilst I agree with you in some ways, I would bet that Meade as a whole is still on shaky ground in terms of revenue and profits (compared to Celestron).

As to whether the LX80 is 'better' than the CGEM, we'll have to wait and see - it's certainly 'different', but I don't know about better. Moreover, I see the CGEM as a higher capacity mount than the LX80. I think the LX80 is more of a competitor to the Celestron CG5. Then there is Audiostar vs. Nextstar, and I still think the software and handset of Nextstar is better than the Meade 497 series.

There is a big gap between the LX80 and 800, and I would be most interested to see if Meade fill it, and with what. I agree that Meade are definitely putting the pressure on Celestron, and it's the CG5 that is looking very old hat now. I'm surprised that Celestron have let it go for so long - so bring on the mount wars - its all good for the consumer.

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 06:49 AM

meade really has celestron topped this year
the lx 80 is really going to hurt celestron why
would you want to by a cgem or cgem dx for 1500-2000
dollers when you can buy a mount thats better for
900 dollers.


And you know it is "better" how?

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 07:23 AM

I would think a properly functioning CGEM would out perform a properly functioning LX80 for imaging. IMO, The LX80 is to a mount what a SCT is to telescopes. Good for many uses but not great.

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 08:43 AM

id say the lx 80 will be about the same as
the cgem 40lbs but its 700$ cheaper thats
why i said it will be better and 3 years
newer so the software is going to be just
as good if not better and in alt-azimuth
mode it holds 70lbs how could it not be
better than the cgem.

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 10:07 AM

You make way too many assumptions there. Just because the mount is newer does NOT mean the software will be newer or better. You need to check the config in alt-az for the weight. If that is the weight for 2 scopes, one on each end, that is totally different than a person using a single ended setup. And just referencing Alt-Az, AP users will most likely not be using it in that config. You can't compare weight capacity in that mode to a CGEM.

Don't try to stir a pot before you have real information and usage reports to put into it!
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Posted 06 October 2011 - 01:06 PM

id say the lx 80 will be about the same as
the cgem 40lbs but its 700$ cheaper thats
why i said it will be better and 3 years
newer so the software is going to be just
as good if not better and in alt-azimuth
mode it holds 70lbs how could it not be
better than the cgem.


My dining room table holds 500 lbs. but i wouldn't use it to mount a telescope.

Apparently you haven't purchased a "newly released" Meade product. And this comes from a guy who used to own Meade stock and also pre-ordered one of these mounts. I'm just hoping it's worth the $799.00.

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 03:51 PM

Jason When you do get the mount please give us a review
I,am really interested in this mount.Anthony :tonofbricks:

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 10:26 PM

I think the good thing about this mount is, that manyy people love alt/azm go to for the confort and position for seeing stuff, and many people start with that, later on the want to grow up on imagening stuff, and this mount will give you the oportunity to do DSO AP (i mean not AP Match 1 tracking) when you are ready on EQ mode, then if you want only visual go back to alt/azm mode and enjoy the visual, i think this mount hit the right spot of people (the majority that have limited budget) to do great visuals and do some starting DSO AP.

I just hope the hardware and software are good and i think meade with this mount for the masses could hit it good and bring good competition to celestron.

The only thing that makes me wait to buy one is meade service record and some of the hardware that comes with lots of plastic, I hope this is not the case.

If this mount works has advertise surely i will sell my cg-5 and SE mount and buy and lx80, so one day i can do only visual on alt/azm and the next day do some little ap on EQ mode.

Thats sweet.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 12:39 AM

Glad to hear that your LX80 is shipping this month. I just ordered one ("pre-order") and would like to get it while there is still some good weather this year. I am taking a chance re the tracking accuracy of this new mount, and I will miss not having a polar alignment scope. I have gotten so good at using one with my G11, and will be forced to learn a new system. Maybe Meade will develop one similar to that for the CGE.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 04:45 AM

I think the good thing about this mount is, that manyy people love alt/azm go to for the confort and position for seeing stuff, and many people start with that, later on the want to grow up on imagening stuff, and this mount will give you the oportunity to do DSO AP (i mean not AP Match 1 tracking) when you are ready on EQ mode, then if you want only visual go back to alt/azm mode and enjoy the visual, i think this mount hit the right spot of people (the majority that have limited budget) to do great visuals and do some starting DSO AP.

I just hope the hardware and software are good and i think meade with this mount for the masses could hit it good and bring good competition to celestron.

The only thing that makes me wait to buy one is meade service record and some of the hardware that comes with lots of plastic, I hope this is not the case.

If this mount works has advertise surely i will sell my cg-5 and SE mount and buy and lx80, so one day i can do only visual on alt/azm and the next day do some little ap on EQ mode.

Thats sweet.

Yep! I completely agree, esp since I use TV scopes which don't have rotating focusers. The convenience factor, elegant altazimuth working, weight/size are big attractions for me - it does look nice for the money, and there is a good chance I will get one.

Fox

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 11:21 AM

Yep Foxtro, what this mount if done correctly could bring to the people specially the new guys who dont want to invest the arm and the leg on amateur astronomy because they entering the hobby the oportunity with just one investment do both alt/azm and eq modes in one package.

I started with alt/azm (etx-70, later etx-125 and now i have a cg-5 and SE mount with a C6) and when you started with alt/azm when you wanted to get more deeply on imagening then the problems started, alt/azm is great for visuals not that great for imagening so then you end up buying a second mount (eq) for that purpouse only so another 600 to 1,000 dls invested, with this mount it kills that! if it works has advertise many many people will have the oportunity to save money and do both of them wihtout putting more money on another mount.

I dont think this mount would never compete with the big ones for AP like takahashis or Gemini or Paramounts, this mount is for people starting on the hobby and give them the oportunity to do both of the stuff at the same price of course not perfect for the price. People who get in love with AP will save money and buy better mounts for that purpouse , but people who maybe this will be their only option and only investment on this hobby because of money restrains (heck right now the economy worldwide is on the ground) will give them this oportunity that like myself i would want to have long ago. One mount for both stuff and just one small investment.


Hope meade do it right this time and they will get on the right track again.






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