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Posted 02 May 2012 - 05:11 PM

out of all the mounts at NEAF the Avalon M.Uno Fast Reverse looked the sexiest to me.

But being intimidated cause it's out of my price range I didn't even bother to talk to them about it.

Does anyone know about this mount, or following any chatter about it since it's been out since July 2011?

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 06:22 PM

Does anyone know about this mount, or following any chatter about it since it's been out since July 2011?


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There is no chatter about it - basically neglected. Why to bother? You can get Mach1 for less.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 06:25 PM

Thats the first I heard of this mount, watched the vid not to crazy about how the tube sits offset for visual in certain spots as far as eyepiece position and a long refractor might be a problem. Danny what is Your avatar Iv seen it but cant place where I saw it, nice.
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Posted 02 May 2012 - 07:43 PM

what is Your avatar Iv seen it but cant place where I saw it



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Posted 02 May 2012 - 07:47 PM

Why to bother? You can get Mach1 for less



cause it seems different, and sometimes that can uncover some unique qualities.

Plus I like the mill marks under the shiney red anodize.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 11:02 AM

Rather than start a new thread I'll bump this old one.

I also saw this mount at NEAF 2012, was impressed but not in the market at the time. Still not ready to plunk down the money but I am seriously considering it for a near future upgrade. Would really like to read some first hand impressions, but web searching has turned up almost nothing but pics and one guy who says "had one, now I don't, long story".

Surely someone must be using this mount? I understand it was at this years NEAF again. I'm kinda disappointed they don't yet have a USA dealer.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 11:20 AM

Latest Astronomy Technology Today magazine wrote a great technical review of this mount. It turned out to be very impressive. My favorite part is no Meridian Flipping. I've always preferred fork mount over GEM. I had good experience with Celestron CPC scopes but the gears were not so good or consistent.

https://www.astronom...nologytoday.com

You need to pay for it to subscribe but it's a great magazine. I like it better than Astronomy or Sky & Telescope magazines.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 03:29 PM

Peter, thanks a lot for the tip. I subscribed to the 1 year online only option for 10 bucks. Was worth it just for the article on the M-Uno. I also prefer fork mounts and am determined to remain with them. This one is pretty much the only option between the LX200 and the Mathis 500.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 03:50 PM

I read somewhere a few days in other forums that Sky & Telescope also wrote an article about this mount but I can't remember which forum and which S & T issue. It may not be as detailed as Astronomy Technology Today magazine.

You can get this mount from a very good scope dealer at:

Avalon M-Uno

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 04:02 PM

I found a M-Uno mount owner at:

http://davesastroima...F7348#h56090e1e

Lots of good pictures.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 04:13 PM

Looks like there would be serious limitations to the cameras/OTA's you could use with it. My first concern would be some sort of flex.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 04:38 PM

I found a M-Uno mount owner at:

http://davesastroima...F7348#h56090e1e

Lots of good pictures.

Peter


Yeah pretty sure he's the "had one, now I don't, long story" guy.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 04:54 PM

Looks like there would be serious limitations to the cameras/OTA's you could use with it. My first concern would be some sort of flex.

There are limits in both size and weight, but as far as I can tell there's adapters and counterweight options that will let you mount reasonable refractors and long image trains. The 11 Celestron is the largest recommended SCT. It's primarily designed to be a portable mount. If I could afford it I'd wish for an M-uno that would handle a 16. But that would probably be right up there with the Mathis in price, if not more.

The belt drive system has me really interested. No backlash and long slow PE well under 10 arcsec that you just autoguide out, no hours of PEC training ever. I am seriously ready for a mount that just works, even if it means never going bigger than 10 inches in aperture.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 07:52 PM

That is just plain beautiful, the best looking mount I can think of.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 08:35 PM

That is just plain beautiful, the best looking mount I can think of.


Yes it is....its italian. :grin:

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 10:11 PM

... so is the 10Micron. :D

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 11:24 PM

The M-Uno didn't do too much for me at NEAF 2013, but the Fast Reverse Linear is a dream just to hear slewing. Same Ferrari racing red alloy finish too, it just looks good. Of course, you need a Officina Stellare HiPer 130 in matching red to sit on it...so figure on spending about 15k for that combo...:)

Just for info, Ed at DeepSpaceProducts will be the North America dealer. He's putting together the info now. I contacted Avalon to ask.

Ed said it would be at least 2-3 weeks before he can offer any info on pricing, etc.

Fyi,

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 11:49 PM

Thanks Paul, welcome news.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 11:51 PM

... so is the 10Micron. :D


I'll second that, and it only had one chord sticking out of it. much quieter than the AP1100, which was quiet already.

but the hand paddle is as big as some of my wife's purses. an x-large tv remote. :grin:

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 01:23 AM

I have the Linear, great mount, guides very very smooth no backlash reacts to each guide pulse instantly ...
Fit and finish ... top ...
M. Uno., I should have bought that one, no flip is just so handy when operating mobile ...

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 12:37 PM

I found a M-Uno mount owner at:

http://davesastroima...F7348#h56090e1e

Lots of good pictures.

Peter


Note that the version pictured is the European Synscan version which is being discontinued.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 02:27 PM

So.. what controller will the Avalon use going forward?

I understand that initially they emulated the Synscan so that the standard Synscan controller can be used.

And the magic question.. what will pricing be like. Also for 10Micron. I assume it won't follow the EU pricing (no 19% tax) but the cost of shipping, stocking, support, etc...

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 03:16 PM

So.. what controller will the Avalon use going forward?

I understand that initially they emulated the Synscan so that the standard Synscan controller can be used.

And the magic question.. what will pricing be like. Also for 10Micron. I assume it won't follow the EU pricing (no 19% tax) but the cost of shipping, stocking, support, etc...


The new controller is manufactured by Avalon. It currently allows for the use of any computer control program like The Sky X as well as control by Bluetooth using programs like SkySafari. Wifi may be added as well soon (or possibly in place of Bluetooth). There is also propriety software for the mount. The mount has a basic hand control that can be used for alignment and manual slewing but does not currently have any kind of readout.

You are correct about the pricing. The details are in the works. Of course to you in Singapore, you would not likely be looking at a US dealer.

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 01:20 AM

Hi Ed, I'm actually not in the market right now, as I have a Mach1 balcony queen. :D

I was asking for the benefit of others who might or would be interested. The 10Micron HPS 1000 for example looks like a good buy at near-Mach1 price (based on EU price less 19%) and with dual-axis absolute encoders. I believe it's the cheapest encoder mount you can buy anywhere.

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 01:53 PM

The belt drive is in my opinion a design failure. When connected directly to the main axes, it just can't be rigid enough to handle wind properly. There is a reason for the worms in mounts like AP and Paramount.







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