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#126 Dave Ittner

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 11:11 AM

Indeed.
Currently, only computer star charts come up to that level.
The SkyGX atlas would have been "THE ONE", but Christopher Watson was never able to find a printer.

Here is what it would have been:
Based on the Hipparcos (http://astro.estec.esa.nl/Hipparcos/) and Tycho (http://www.astro.ku..../~erik/Tycho-2/) observations, SkyGX is a set of 3,570 charts encompassing the entire sky to about magnitude 12.0. With completeness to approximately 99% at magnitude 11.0 and 90% at magnitude 11.5—more than 2 million stars—it sets a new standard for printed star atlases. Smaller fields and greater chart scale, coupled with the use of the latest combined and revised stellar and deep-sky catalogues, has made it possible to show the whole sky with far greater veracity and uniformity than any previous printed all-sky atlas. Nearly 60,000 galaxies with visually verified aspect ratio and orientation are displayed, along with 25,000 other non-stellar objects taken from the most up-to-date and accurate datasets available.


Don, I would like to inquire if Christopher would be willing to allow us to obtain a PDF for each chart. How do I reach him?

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 11:15 AM

Make him the offer for $275. You never know, and it doesn't hurt to ask...

Chris


I did just that after I noticed he lives less than 20 miles from me. The atlas is as described. Glad I was able to pick it up for $275.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 11:27 AM


I did just that after I noticed he lives less than 20 miles from me. The atlas is as described. Glad I was able to pick it up for $275.


Nice catch, congrat !

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 11:33 AM

Indeed.
Currently, only computer star charts come up to that level.
The SkyGX atlas would have been "THE ONE", but Christopher Watson was never able to find a printer.

Here is what it would have been:
Based on the Hipparcos (http://astro.estec.esa.nl/Hipparcos/) and Tycho (http://www.astro.ku..../~erik/Tycho-2/) observations, SkyGX is a set of 3,570 charts encompassing the entire sky to about magnitude 12.0. With completeness to approximately 99% at magnitude 11.0 and 90% at magnitude 11.5—more than 2 million stars—it sets a new standard for printed star atlases. Smaller fields and greater chart scale, coupled with the use of the latest combined and revised stellar and deep-sky catalogues, has made it possible to show the whole sky with far greater veracity and uniformity than any previous printed all-sky atlas. Nearly 60,000 galaxies with visually verified aspect ratio and orientation are displayed, along with 25,000 other non-stellar objects taken from the most up-to-date and accurate datasets available.


Don, I would like to inquire if Christopher would be willing to allow us to obtain a PDF for each chart. How do I reach him?

This is a thread here on CN:
SkyGX
I sent him some emails several years ago, but I no longer have that computer or the email address. Sorry.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 12:21 PM

This is a thread here on CN:
SkyGX
I sent him some emails several years ago, but I no longer have that computer or the email address. Sorry.


Thanks, I will try to reach him.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 01:38 PM

I did just that after I noticed he lives less than 20 miles from me. The atlas is as described. Glad I was able to pick it up for $275.

I am glad that you were able to procure the MSA. I am happy to learn that gradually owners are slowly realizing that they cannot quote exorbitant prices of "out of print" books and make money, especially in a field like amateur astronomy. If they can get to sell at the price for what they bought it for originally, they should feel happy about it.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 03:51 PM


I did just that after I noticed he lives less than 20 miles from me. The atlas is as described. Glad I was able to pick it up for $275.

I am glad that you were able to procure the MSA. I am happy to learn that gradually owners are slowly realizing that they cannot quote exorbitant prices of "out of print" books and make money, especially in a field like amateur astronomy. If they can get to sell at the price for what they bought it for originally, they should feel happy about it.


I don't necessarily agree with that, at least the last part.

When the big 3-volume Becvar atlas was in print, it went for something like $15. Long after it went out of print, I bought a copy for $200 and was glad to get it. Times and prices change; someone selling something no longer available is entitled to get whatever they can for it. Remember, we all had the chance to buy them new for much less when they were still in print. You snooze, you lose.

Of course, that doesn't mean I'd pay $900 bucks for an MSA! But that's my choice; someone with more money might be glad to buy it, and both parties would walk away happy.

It's a free market, and the market will set the price. And I'm glad, too, that the price the market set for this one was reasonable.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 06:50 PM


This is a thread here on CN:
SkyGX
I sent him some emails several years ago, but I no longer have that computer or the email address. Sorry.


Thanks, I will try to reach him.


I can bring up that thread but it will not let me click on his nickname to bring up his profile (which should allow me to send him a PM).

It says I need to log in, and when I do it says it can't find the username/password (mine). Weird.

Not sure what is wrong or what to do next.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 08:23 PM

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It's a free market, and the market will set the price. And I'm glad, too, that the price the market set for this one was reasonable.


One day we will see the Great Atlas of the Sky at 200$, 300$ or 500$ and we will say: « Hey! it was at 99$ in autumn 2012 ! » :lol:

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 08:59 PM

Perhaps so. My only hesitation of believing that could happen is how fast computers and tablets are taking over.

Plus I am starting to wonder just how many more atlases are available before the inventory runs out.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 09:02 PM

Plus I am starting to wonder just how many more atlases are available before the inventory runs out.


Piotr Brytch is selling is last copy.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 09:17 PM

Really? Where did you learn that?

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 07:41 AM

At the same place as you. I also know exactly how many GAOTS was sold but since you know all that, please ignore my post.
:grin: :lol:

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 08:23 AM

Someday I want to pick up the MSA for my collection.

Jason

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 08:30 AM

At the same place as you. I also know exactly how many GAOTS was sold but since you know all that, please ignore my post.
:grin: :lol:


I don't know "exactly" how many GAOTS have been sold and I can't say for sure "exactly" how many GAOTS were available for purchase.

It was a simple question really - how do you know he is selling his last copy?

<sigh> that's okay if you don't want to answer the question it's not that important.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:29 AM

My apologies to all of you friends. It seems that I confused this thread writing "the last copy" instead of "last copies" despite to share with you with effort in english that is not my native language. :crazy: May be it's time for me to switch in silent mode continuing to read your interesting post. :bawling:

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:54 AM

Andre,

Your english is much better than my french!! :waytogo: You are doing fine. I think sometimes we forget that english is not a primary language to some on Cloudy Nights.

Please keep posting!

Jason

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:56 AM

Hey, no problem. You got my hopes up that the sale was coming close to the end. I do hope that those who want the atlas do go ahead and plop down $99 for it. It's worth every penny.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:48 PM

My copy ordered July 31, shipped Aug 28, and arrived today, Oct. 8. Very nice, and well packed.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 11:35 AM

I just put my soft bound copy of the MSA up for sale on AM, if anyone is interested, $215 with shipping. I find I am not using it and want to sell to someone who will.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 12:03 PM

That should go real fast.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 03:48 PM

No bites yet but I am sure as the weekend roles around it will sell.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 09:04 PM

No bites yet but I am sure as the weekend roles around it will sell.


There is also a 'wanted' ad on AM for a Millenium atlas.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 09:32 PM

I don't see your ad at AstroMart. Was going to send the link to a friend. Can you post it here?

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 09:34 PM

nevermind, it helps to spell Millennium properly






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