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#26 mclewis1

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 05:20 PM

In the Celestron world Sync and Precise goto are two very different functions (but both make it easier to find stuff).

Sync updates the sky model in one particular area of the sky. All gotos in that particular area benefit from the improved accuracy.

Precise goto temporarily improves pointing accuracy to one particular object, it doesn't affect any other gotos.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 05:47 PM

In the Celestron world Sync and Precise goto are two very different functions (but both make it easier to find stuff).

Sync updates the sky model in one particular area of the sky. All gotos in that particular area benefit from the improved accuracy.

Precise goto temporarily improves pointing accuracy to one particular object, it doesn't affect any other gotos.


Right. That is why I used the term "local sync" (a SkySafari term) and the aka "precise go-to" (the Celestron term).
The SkySafari cannot perform a sych. It used to via RS-232 commands until Celeston changed the HC code and the SkySafari would un-align the scope (it was bad).

So, SkySafari changed the code to do the local-sync (aka precise go-to but you manually find the closest star). The offsets are stored within SkySafari for that 10 degree portion of the sky you align to.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 06:36 AM

Katie-

Yes I use the local Sync function on SkiSafari too... ironically though I often use the precise GOTO on the handcontrol as I have more confidence in its precision. This is because I had some accuracy issues with SkySafari... post a few tweaks, like adjusting the epoch and turning off the time function it works better and usually can get me very close to dead center... Also from a fine-tuning adjustment perspective the handcontrol has a better feel/action than the slew arrows on skisafari... (they need to improve this with adjustable slew speeds!)

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 06:58 AM

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... Also from a fine-tuning adjustment perspective the handcontrol has a better feel/action than the slew arrows on skisafari... (they need to improve this with adjustable slew speeds!)

-Al


Hi Al. I agree that the tweeks are needed, and once implemented the gotos are, as you stated, "dead center".

As to the slew rates, within the scope control window is a Rate slider that changes the slew rate that is in effect when you press one of the direction buttons. I can slew really really slow - guide speed slow (the rate slider is like using the speed/rate button and then a number on the HC). I can attest that it works with my 6SE, but I don't use SkySafari on my CPC1100 so I don't know if it works with that scope.


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Posted 28 July 2012 - 10:12 AM

I just got a new CG-5 mount and it came with the new Nexstar+. I have to say it's not as bad as I thought I kind of like it. Of course a new toy brought clouds with it so I only got to test the alignment and not look at anything. The "Star" button is a shortcut to the "Named Stars" menu so that's a nice feature. Another really nice feature mentioned in the manual about the "Help" button: "For your convenience, it currently functions as a shortcut to the Messier Catalog." The "Celestron Logo" button acts as a SHIFT key button the manual states it can use used with future firmware upgrades to add features and used with advanced functions. Perhaps this can be used to create an NGC shortcut button like the Help/Messier button.

Celestron also has a new app SkyQ I just downloaded it so I haven't played around with it much but it is similar to SkySafari and only $4.99. An additional $99.00 Wifi adapter is available which allows wireless alignment and Goto control of Celestron mounts.

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 06:02 PM

Use nexremote and you don't have to deal with the handset at all, especially if you get a wireless gamepad.

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 12:16 PM

One thing I notice with the old controller is that it takes a long time to cycle through the "Constellation" list if you want to do tours through one in particular. Getting to Auriga is not bad but if you're trying to navigate to Monoceros, for example, it can take 6-7 minutes. Is the cycle time through this list improved on the Nexstar+?

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 12:24 PM

Sadly it is not. That is my biggest gripe with the NexStar controller. Meade Autostar II does this much better.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 08:14 AM

Unc: When news of this Nexstar+ new version HC came some months ago, I responded by buying a spare older version, with the Messier and NGC buttons, in case mine went bad. I guess that tells you how old I am and which version I strongly prefer. This new NexStar+ is like the "New Coke"; I always preferred the classic Coke and hated the New Coke, and apparently I wasn't alone. I had heard that the Coca Cola company was trying to edge the taste of Coke towards that of Pepsi, and of course, if Coke customers had wanted that, then they would have bought Pepsi. Similarly, one of the selling points mentioned often on these fora for the Celestron over the Meade are much more user intuitive hand control operations. If Celestron buyers wanted to scroll through a series of choices like the Meade HC requires, then perhaps some of them would have chosen Meade in the first place.
If I were upgrading the Celestron hand controller, I would add "Constellation Tour" to the List button; I think it would be neat to see a list of the best targets in a given constellation. I'd also add a spiral search like the Meade has; for those occasions when I want to find objects myself without goto, I found this feature invaluable on the Meade HC. Tim

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 10:41 AM

Having never used the old one, I think this controller is really easy.

I'm relating the "I hate it" feelings to changes were made that now you have to learn again, therefore not as good as you currently have.

I get it, I have the issue when Autodesk decides to move a command in AutoCAD I use all the time. They give it a different picture in the ribbon and tool bars, call it something completely different than what it was last version but keep the function the same. I hate that but soon learn where it is and am just as fast as before, until they do it again. Dont get me started on when the company I work for decideds to do it to their software..... :tonofbricks:

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Posted 25 September 2012 - 08:09 AM

Not really. The new one has some nice features, but it's lost functionality, like the ability to call up catalogs and enter objects with one button push. ;)

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 12:52 AM

No substitute for large print and volume...at least not at my age!

Stan


Umm... NexRemote on your PC screen? :grin:

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 10:33 PM

trout I use Pro E and it is the same thing. Every couple of years they move everything and change all of the icon representations. All in the interest of making it "dummy proof".






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