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#1 Malabargold

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 06:35 PM

Has anyone taken delivery yet?

#2 jmiele

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 06:36 PM

I believe the first to come out are end July early August.

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#3 Paul G

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 07:32 PM

The offer letter from AP says the first will ship in July and they will continue to ship throughout the year. They are offering the scope to the 180 f7 and 180 f9 interest list first, this list dates from 1995-2001.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 07:43 PM

:jump:
I have one on the way. Can't remember, but I think I signed up in late 1995!

#5 Paul Hyndman

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 09:46 PM

Current ETA on mine is end of August to early September... but who's counting?!? :grin:

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 10:10 PM

:jump:
I have one on the way. Can't remember, but I think I signed up in late 1995!


Now that's a long wait! You must have the patience of Job. :) Congrats, and also welcome to CN!

#7 jmiele

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 10:14 PM

Couple a show offs. :) Luck devils! We'll have to experience the AP175 vicariously through you. Welcome and keep us posted.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 09:21 AM

The offer letter from AP says the first will ship in July and they will continue to ship throughout the year. They are offering the scope to the 180 f7 and 180 f9 interest list first, this list dates from 1995-2001.


The wait time for these never ceases to amaze me. When folks are willing to wait a decade for your product, you know you've got a good thing going!

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 09:49 AM

Almost two decades for this one. :)

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 10:39 AM

:jump:
I have one on the way. Can't remember, but I think I signed up in late 1995!


Congratulations guys!

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 11:10 AM

Question? Do people (like yourself) update their personal information to Televue and If so how?
I don't see ever wanting to get on a 20yr list, but I'm sure If I did, I probably wouldn't have the same contact Info as I do know. Heck, back in '95, those that did have the Internet had "dial up". I'm sure people's emails have changed over the years and with the influx of Cell phones, a lot of "land lines" are becoming obsolete as well.
Just Curious?

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 11:36 AM

Question? Do people (like yourself) update their personal information to Televue and If so how?
I don't see ever wanting to get on a 20yr list, but I'm sure If I did, I probably wouldn't have the same contact Info as I do know. Heck, back in '95, those that did have the Internet had "dial up". I'm sure people's emails have changed over the years and with the influx of Cell phones, a lot of "land lines" are becoming obsolete as well.
Just Curious?

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AP recommends people on an interest list keep AP abreast of any mailing, phone, or e-mail address changes. I received an e-mail at each of two e-mail addresses and a letter via snail mail.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 03:23 PM

The only lists you can get on at the moment are for the AP130 EDFGT and the Riccardi Honders astrograph.

No general interest list is around.

From what i understand, the genesis of the AP 175 is Marj pointed out this set of blanks they had and suggested it was time for them to become something.

To my knowledge, no list has ever been retired (e.g. officially told "We will never do this"). However, the Traveller list is apparently pretty close to that- Roland has previously told me he doesn't see 4" refractors in his future. I think he is operating on a model of diversity available to the interested observer than markets. So, the AP130EDFGT came from a lack of what diameters and F/#s are around in something really portable.

Ultimately this is based more on what interests Roland than anything else. And come to think of it, that's what he said about other Opticians- they have what they are interested, they work alone, and maybe they would be interested in what he does, or not. So, what this really boils down to isn't waiting for a product. These really aren't built like products in the commercial sense. It's a series of 1-off items, and the lists are just who asked, first.

But I'd dearly love to get a good look through an AP175.

-Rich

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 05:32 PM

The wait time for these never ceases to amaze me. When folks are willing to wait a decade for your product, you know you've got a good thing going! [/quote]

Waited just under a "decade" for my "130" (130EDFGT!). :grin:

AP products stand out from the others in the field for many reasons including quality, value, service, and support! Few things in life are worth this wait. AP scopes are worth that wait to many proud owner/users. :usa:

Congrats to those in line to receive the new 175! :bow: :bow: :bow:

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 07:38 PM

I have one coming by the end of July! The offer was totally by surprise as I had given up on any hope of being offered a 170-180 size scope from AP. Back in 1995, I had my name put back on the 180EDT list after I declined an initial offer by AP... it was one of my biggest mistakes not taking a new 180EDT back then. I didn't know there even was a 180EDT list anymore. In the 175EDF offer letter mailed to me it asks that a receiver of a new 175EDF not resell it for quick profit. It also states that this size scope will most likely not ever be made by AP in the future. This could be the last AP scope this size or larger. I'm getting myself in shape to lift this 43lb. baby onto my AP900/ATS transportable pier standing 54" high. It will be transported to dark (mag. 6.8) observing sites.

I know a fellow observer in my area with a 180EDT. It will be interesting to compare the performance between these two scopes.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 07:49 PM

Interesting for sure. When was his 180 made?

What are they charging for these?

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 09:12 PM

He took delivery of his 180EDT around 1996 or 1997 IIRC. It was one of the last ones made. It was the pride of our 50-person observing group. He rarely takes it out anymore...now observes mostly with his 155EDF, a more manageable scope.

The 175EDF? $19.8K. I noticed Roland up'ed the price of the 175EDF $1k one month after initial announcement. Back in 1995, the 180EDT cost $5,200. How times have changed.

I'm wondering how AP arrived at the 175's price of $19.8k? Did he use his usual manufacturing formula or is there an added premium to take away a fast reselling profit? I'm sure this scope would resell immediately at a 50% premium.

Interesting for sure. When was his 180 made?

What are they charging for these?



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Posted 18 July 2012 - 12:50 AM

Congratulations Guys!

Please grace us dreamers with some pics and reports when the scopes arrive. And I hope you feel a tiny bit guilty because I will have to wait a whole longer for my 130.

Honestly, each one of these that Roland gets out is a bonus for all of us.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 05:39 AM

Congrats and enjoy!

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 06:37 AM

I'm wondering how AP arrived at the 175's price of $19.8k? Did he use his usual manufacturing formula or is there an added premium to take away a fast reselling profit? I'm sure this scope would resell immediately at a 50% premium.


A number of folks have criticized AP for offering their refractors far below the price of what they are really worth judging by what they sell on the used market, the $20K price tag for the AP175 is perhaps a positive move on the part of AP to correct the situation.

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#21 jmiele

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 07:42 AM

Vahe, I'd agree if these scopes were going to be available as a production item. However, to my knowledge this is a "very" limited run and when the blank are gone, he's done with these. Someone correct me if the know different. That said, I still agree and very much respect that these interments are being made at all and are priced where they are.

At this point used AP180's can fetch between 25-30k. Even 26-27k bids are not meeting current reserve prices. I expect the first AP175 to be sold used will go for 35-40K. Perhaps higher in an auction. However, most of the folks on that list that are still into this hobby and are interested enough to come up with an unexpected 20k for something the ordered 18 years ago, are most likely NOT going to part with it for the time being. Which, is a good thing. I know of one, who said - "this is a lifetime scope, I waited a lifetime and that's how long I'm keeping it." :)

Best, Joe

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 08:55 AM

Roland told me these were a one run and done- then back to making AP130s.

-Rich

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 09:14 AM

I certainly don't know how he arrived at the price but a good comp is TEC's 180 and AP includes the FF. I do agree with Joe about where these will eventually trade!

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 09:37 AM

Roland told me these were a one run and done- then back to making AP130s.

-Rich


Any idea how many scopes?

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 09:49 AM

Roland told me these were a one run and done- then back to making AP130s.

-Rich


Any idea how many scopes?


Yes, not enough. :)

Best, Joe






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