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#1 actionhac

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 05:25 PM

I recently saw this on CL and called the seller 1hr. after he posted the ad on Monday. I decided not to go and look because of the drive.
Well Friday I called him and he still had it so since I had the time why not!
I'm no stranger to Coulter dobs I have a 8 which I love (Stumpy) and I have looked through many 13"s and 17.5" but these optics have always been transplanted into truss structures, I've never seen a factory behemoth unit until now.
I was not prepared. I knew I was going to bring it home but didn't take nearly enough stuff out of my van! and even though we disassembled to small pieces the pieces are Jurassic dinosaur size!

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 05:26 PM

I really did it this time!

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 05:28 PM

Oh no! I'm sorry honey!

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 05:29 PM

How do I get it out?!!!

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 05:33 PM

The seller bought it brand new from Coulter and waited 8 months for it.
He used it twice and said "thats it" and bought a Questar! he promptly removed the primary and wrapped it up and it's been that way in his bedroom for 30yrs! will that happen to me?

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 05:48 PM

The seller bought it brand new from Coulter and waited 8 months for it.
He used it twice and said "thats it" and bought a Questar! he promptly removed the primary and wrapped it up and it's been that way in his bedroom for 30yrs! will that happen to me?


It will happen to you. It's a rude and crude scope at best.
Hope you have the back to wrestle that monster around.

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 06:00 PM

I had one that almost did me in. The meade 16" Newt had the same effect when I used it. The Meade almost fell on me. The Coulter was just so freaking heavy that I knew it would be me or it someday. That was is it for big heavy scopes.

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 06:17 PM

This thing is absolutely unbelievable. The scale of all the pieces, and yes the weight!
I'm going to clean it up and try it out, I've got too!
Look at the size of this diagonal!

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 06:22 PM

Let's hope the optics are worth the effort. I have looked through a lot of coulters. Only one was awesome. The rest were only good a low powers. The 17.5" is great for sweeping the milky way. It is just breathtaking to see so many stars as you sweep the sky. The 12.5" portaball I have blows away most scopes I have owned. Still a good size that I can lift and optics that are second to none and puts up so many pin point stars it is breathtaking. On the planets it is also an awesome scope and gives my AP a run for its money.

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 06:35 PM

Good luck. The one I bought had horrible optics.

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 06:46 PM

I'm sure I did the wrong thing buying this, that's why initially I wasn't interested and waited a week. But eventually I just couldn't help myself.
I hope the optics are good. I'm not fond of excessive coma and I want to see some detail.
I may just move the optics to a lightweight truss, if they are good enough.
I'm not sure what I'm going to do this is uncharted territory for me, 17.5 inches, or if you look at it in millimeters a whopping 444.5mm X 2000.25mm focal length!

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 06:50 PM

send the mirror to OWL and have them evaluate it. Maybe it would not cost much to turn it into a great mirror.

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 07:00 PM

I liked my 13", and it had decent optics (but you never know for sure about them; some are good and some aren't). With a Paracorr, it put up some stunning views. I used it for years, but a back injury finally ended that. It was just too heavy to be manhandling anymore.

It's still in the family, though. I gave it to a nephew. And then I bought a new 12" LightBridge, which I can still handle just fine.

Here's a photo of mine next to Mike Spooner's 12"...

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 07:14 PM

and just in case :-)

http://www.astromart...ified_id=787791

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 07:37 PM

I remember every fast Newt i owned back in the 70's and 80's gave mushy views at best, anything over low power was a coma filled mushy view.

With today's great mirror makers, Paracorr, coliimation tools and smaller secondarys it's a whole new ball game.

My first Starmaster back in 2000 sure changed my mind about fast Newts.

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 08:04 PM

and just in case :-)

http://www.astromart...ified_id=787791


That's what I paid $725.00 only I got 300lbs of particle board and cardboard with mine!

If mine is a "coma filled mush" I'll contact Steve Swayze http://www.swayzeoptical.com/ and see if he can correct the figure.
I did notice my primary is cut from the edge of the Pyrex sheet, it has a big heavy area on one side of the back. I hope that doesn't mean something undesirable.

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 08:09 PM

Congrats, any pictures of the big MIRROR!! Be curious of your impressions on first light. Bob

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 11:28 PM

Steve Swayze refigured my friends 17.5" and it is one of the best mirrors I've ever looked through. No way would I send anything to OWL ever again.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 09:50 AM

I think a few casters on the base of that monster are in order, Robert! Better to roll than to lift...

Also, when you get it set up, if the images are poor, try rotating the mirror in the sling to various positions... I've seen a few of these types that responded to that.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 10:02 AM

An easy solution to moving the Odyssey scopes...

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 10:37 AM

No argument, that scope is a beast.

I had the 10.1" Odyssey and loved it. The views were excellent and it blew me away that I had a 10" scope for $300!

The only reason I parted with it was because it just became too heavy to schlep it around as I got older. I replaced it with a smaller, lighter scope that I'm using much more now but I really miss that big 10-inch.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 10:47 AM

I have mine on a flat cart with 4 casters to move it around, but getting it out the door requires enlisting help so I don't hurt my back or the scope. I can do it myself if necessary, but it is rough. Mine is only a 13". I can't even imagine what the 17 must weigh.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 07:15 PM

A neighbor helped me unload it and place the optical tube in the mount.
I have never owned a telescope this massive that requires a minimum of 2 people to assemble.
I then was able to tilt the entire structure enough to slip little furniture moving castors under the ground board to move it around.
I will clean it up and install the mirrors.
I do want to take pictures of the primary to post here, I think you will find the back of the mirror interesting. Also I will take pictures of the "tailgate" and flotation cell and the sling that holds the primary, all interesting stuff.

Robert

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 08:13 PM

I had both 10" and 13" coutlers. When I was about 25 or 26 I kept the 13 in the upstairs of our apartment and crated it out to the car by myself,could never do that now.Both had mediocre mirrors but still put up great deepsky views with good eyepieces(back then meade rgs and first run naglers).I finally replaced the 13" shaving mirror with a 16" shaver (meade ds16).That 16 had a reputation figure wise as about the same quality as the coutlers.For me that meant no planets,even with off axis stops and always good eyepieces.I replaced the orginal nags with the orginal meade uwas smoothies and got great deep sky views and I bet you will to. If you can view from your driveway then put 4 casters on the bottom and your off and running.If you have to travel always bring a friend.Good luck and enjoy! Lets us know about first light.....

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 07:16 AM

Robert; best of luck on this scope, a local friend used to have the red tube version of the 17...it took both of us, to get the monster out, and everything we had to carry the mount out.
But that monster showed us the impacts on jupiter, blew right through the hercules cluster, showed pink and blue , IIRC, in the Orion nebula, and thousands of deep space targets.
Ive always wanted on, but alas it hasnt fell into my lap yet, hehehehehehehe.






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