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#51 Mike W

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 07:47 PM

I like the ES finder as it's not upside down or backward. I mounted it on the tube rings (Don't have to stoop down)works great there? :shrug:

If your 4" refractor is around F7, one option might be to use it as its own finder. I've used a 5" achro and a preceding 4" achro with eyepieces giving around 2.7 degress real field of view to find things pretty much to satisfaction for the last eight years. Otherwise, a finder with its own star diagonal will help, as per the other responses....


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I like straight through finders on Newtonians because the finder is at the right end of the tube to be easily accessible. I am looking through the finder in the direction the scope is pointing and the finder is easily accessed.

With a refractor, it doesn't work that way, a right angle finder is effective because you don't have to stoop down to use it, the eyepiece is right there next to the main eyepiece.

Of course, as Mark says, the finder is it's own, no real need for a magnifying finder, a red dot and a low power widefield eyepiece is about all one needs.

I haven't quite figured out why ES sells their refractors with these straight through finders, it doesn't quite make sense, a good RACI would seem a better choice. I am waiting to the see these ES straight throughs show up used but that hasn't happened yet.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 07:54 PM

Nice work! I wouldn't worry about ES bringing one to market to compete with yours. They told me over two years ago that one was "in development."


No, really, they have them now. I was speaking to them last week and they said they have them now.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 08:52 PM

Seriously? That's good news for Explore Scientific owners. I don't know why it took so long to bring to market, though, or why they didn't notice the too-short-stalk problem to begin with. That was by far the biggest gripe I had with the ED80, along with having to remove the dewshield to attach the dust cap.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 09:15 PM

Seriously? That's good news for Explore Scientific owners. I don't know why it took so long to bring to market, though, or why they didn't notice the too-short-stalk problem to begin with. That was by far the biggest gripe I had with the ED80, along with having to remove the dewshield to attach the dust cap.


Seriously. As soon as I make one myself, hack sawing a very hard piece of 6061 aluminum, they get them. I was asking them questions about one of their other scopes, and I sent them the picture, b/c I feel like you do about it, and he mentioned it looked nice but they had them now. Just my luck! I think the sliding dew shield is still far off. But I think some one here from Europe (Spain perhaps) said they got one with a sliding dew shield and 90 degree finder...... who knows. Maybe I'll see them at NEAF and ask. Too late for me now. I wonder if they'll be scratching of the clear coat on these CF's with a sliding dew shield?
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Posted 21 March 2013 - 12:46 PM

ES website has 4" stalk finder bracket in stock, white or black made for ES Refractor. I ordered one today.$59.99

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 01:58 PM

ES website has 4" stalk finder bracket in stock, white or black made for ES Refractor. I ordered one today.$59.99 free shipping.


Nice picture, but mine has more style and is prettier!

#57 Bill Cowles

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 02:26 PM

So is mine and it didn't cost me anything. They probably came out with the riser as the new 127's don't even come with a finder anymore. You will need to buy one if you want a finder as the finder bracket holder is not like the typical shoe, unless the new scopes have also changed to a new mounting shoe.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 03:40 PM

Were was it on the site? I was just looking in their store site and couldn't find it.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 04:22 PM

Is not list on website. Call toll free numbers , ask for Lance McCutchon.
He said have black or white in stock.


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Posted 21 March 2013 - 05:07 PM

Were was it on the site? I was just looking in their store site and couldn't find it.



The Tall Finder scope with set of rings is a fairly new item.
ES are currently building a new website and web shop.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 06:53 PM

Thanks for the info!

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:58 AM

Were was it on the site? I was just looking in their store site and couldn't find it.



The Tall Finder scope with set of rings is a fairly new item.
ES are currently building a new website and web shop.


Thanks!! Gonna do it right now!

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 10:48 AM

ES website has 4" stalk finder bracket in stock, white or black made for ES Refractor. I ordered one today.$59.99


Good news! I just ordered one! Should have it this week!!

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 10:58 AM

ES website has 4" stalk finder bracket in stock, white or black made for ES Refractor. I ordered one today.$59.99


Good news! I just ordered one! Should have it this week!!


Got it. It's nicely made and comes with extra mounting brackets. The best thing is the finder on this scope is finally going to be quite useful!! That's going to be a treat!

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 02:23 PM

Thanks for the pictures. Even though I have a home made stalk, the ES version is higher and less complicated than mine, so I have just ordered one. :waytogo:

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 02:57 PM

Sure thing....

It's a bit pricey but I'll be able to also use it on my 127.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 03:03 PM

Maybe, but what about someone who buys a new 127ED and it doesn't even come with a finder and maybe not even the new stalk, now we are talking pricey and I don't think the new 127ED even comes with the heavy case anymore.

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