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#1 peter scherff

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 03:34 PM

What meteorite are you looking to add to your collection? Is it a “nice” iron, a crumb from Mars, a fresh individual from that new fall, a slice of a pallasite that looks like a stained glass window or perhaps you want to find your first meteorite? I am sure that we all have a meteorite that we dream of acquiring. What is yours?

I remember in the pre-internet days when I wanted an oriented meteorite for my collection. Back then there were occasional printed offerings rarely with pictures often a meteorite slice would be traced to give you an idea of what it looked like. Anyway after saving and searching I finally ended up calling Bog Haag to see what he could offer. He spent about a half hour describing the meteorite to me (actually we spent most of that time just talking about meteorites). The upshot is I purchased a small Nuevo Mercurio “bullet” from him. I will never forget opening the package and seeing the rock for the first time. The little stone was as I had imagined it. Those were fun days.

The meteorite(s) currently on the top of my most wanted list today are a pair of unrelated stones that fell a few hours apart in Europe on August 28, 1925 Ellemeet, Netherlands Diogenite & Lanzenkirchen, Austria L4. I love the coincidence of 2 unrelated meteorites falling so close to each other in time and place.

What are you looking for?

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 03:47 PM

What meteorite are you looking to add to your collection? Is it a “nice” iron, a crumb from Mars, a fresh individual from that new fall, a slice of a pallasite that looks like a stained glass window or perhaps you want to find your first meteorite? I am sure that we all have a meteorite that we dream of acquiring. What is yours?

I remember in the pre-internet days when I wanted an oriented meteorite for my collection. Back then there were occasional printed offerings rarely with pictures often a meteorite slice would be traced to give you an idea of what it looked like. Anyway after saving and searching I finally ended up calling Bog Haag to see what he could offer. He spent about a half hour describing the meteorite to me (actually we spent most of that time just talking about meteorites). The upshot is I purchased a small Nuevo Mercurio “bullet” from him. I will never forget opening the package and seeing the rock for the first time. The little stone was as I had imagined it. Those were fun days.

The meteorite(s) currently on the top of my most wanted list today are a pair of unrelated stones that fell a few hours apart in Europe on August 28, 1925 Ellemeet, Netherlands Diogenite & Lanzenkirchen, Austria L4. I love the coincidence of 2 unrelated meteorites falling so close to each other in time and place.

What are you looking for?

Peter


Hi Peter,
If you can help me secure a Billygoat Donga I'll buy you lunch via PayPal.

Note: Do you still have the Nuevo Mercurio? If so, I'd love to see it.
http://www.lpi.usra.....php?code=17938


Billygoat Donga
Basic information Name: Billygoat Donga
This is an OFFICIAL meteorite name.
Abbreviation: There is no official abbreviation for this meteorite.
Observed fall: No
Year found: 1962
Country: Australia
Mass: 893 g

Classification
history: NHM Catalogue: 5th Edition (2000) L6
MetBase: v. 7.1 (2006) L6
Recommended: L6 [explanation]

This is 1 of 8045 approved meteorites (plus 3 unapproved names) classified as L6. [show all]
Search for other: L chondrites (type 4-7), Ordinary chondrites (type 4-7), L chondrites, and Ordinary chondrites


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Posted 23 August 2012 - 04:15 PM

Hi Davio,

I have to ask why is Billygoat Donga your most wanted meteorite? I think I could guess :).

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 04:25 PM

Here are some photos of my Nuevo Mercurio:

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 04:25 PM

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 05:13 PM

Hi Peter,
I know, you think it's my funny name weakness thing again (although the name is pretty funny). It's not. I'd like to have all seven different Donga names. I have Camel Donga and I'm tyring to secure a Big Rock Donga. The Billygoat Donga is difficult to find because of the low TKW. So is the Dingo Pup Donga, Kohrod Donga, Flood Donga 000, and Johnny's Donga.


Name Status Year Place Type Mass MetBull

Big Rock Donga ** Official 1970 South Australia, Australia H6 19 kg 71
Billygoat Donga Official 1962 Western Australia, Australia L6 893 g
Camel Donga ** Official 1984 Western Australia, Australia Eucrite-mmict 25 kg 64
Camel Donga 002 Official 1989 Western Australia, Australia L6 280 g 72
Camel Donga 003 ** Official 1990 Western Australia, Australia CK3 36.6 g 74
Camel Donga 004 ** Official 1990 Western Australia, Australia Howardite 32.8 g 73
Camel Donga 005 ** Official 1992 Western Australia, Australia LL3.4 38 g 75
Camel Donga 006 Official 1992 Western Australia, Australia H6 51 g 77
Camel Donga 007 Official 1986 Western Australia, Australia L5 100.3 g 77
Camel Donga 008 Official 1993 Western Australia, Australia H6 0.8 g 80
Camel Donga 009 Official 1993 Western Australia, Australia H5 13.4 g 80
Camel Donga 010 Official 1993 Western Australia, Australia L6 3.4 g 80
Camel Donga 011 Official 1993 Western Australia, Australia L6 28.7 g 80
Camel Donga 012 Official 1993 Western Australia, Australia L6 215 g 80
Camel Donga 013 Official 1993 Western Australia, Australia L6 94.3 g 80
Camel Donga 014 Official 1993 Western Australia, Australia LL6 36 g 80
Camel Donga 015 Official 1993 Western Australia, Australia H6 0.3 g 80
Camel Donga 016 Official 1993 Western Australia, Australia L3 3.5 g 80
Camel Donga 017 Official 1994 Western Australia, Australia H5 6.4 g 84
Camel Donga 018 Official 1994 Western Australia, Australia L6 12.9 g 84
Camel Donga 019 Official 1994 Western Australia, Australia L6 0.6 g 84
Camel Donga 020 Official 1994 Western Australia, Australia L6 0.81 g 84
Camel Donga 021 Official 1994 Western Australia, Australia L6 4.15 g 84
Camel Donga 022 Official 1994 Western Australia, Australia L6 0.4 g 84
Camel Donga 023 Official 1994 Western Australia, Australia H6 0.6 g 84
Camel Donga 024 Official 1994 Western Australia, Australia L6 0.65 g 84
Camel Donga 025 Official 1994 Western Australia, Australia L/LL6 2.58 g 84
Camel Donga 026 Official 1994 Western Australia, Australia L6 1 g 84
Camel Donga 027 Official 1994 Western Australia, Australia L/LL6 5.2 g 84
Camel Donga 028 Official 1994 Western Australia, Australia L6 1.48 g 84
Camel Donga 029 Official 1994 Western Australia, Australia L6 1 g 84
Camel Donga 030 Official 1994 Western Australia, Australia L6 3.01 g 84
Camel Donga 031 Official 1994 Western Australia, Australia L6 0.32 g 84
Camel Donga 032 Official 1994 Western Australia, Australia LL6 2.33 g 84
Camel Donga 033 Official 1994 Western Australia, Australia LL6 0.95 g 84
Camel Donga 034 Official 1994 Western Australia, Australia L6 0.7 g 84
Camel Donga 035 Official 1994 Western Australia, Australia L6 0.45 g 84
Camel Donga 036 Official 1994 Western Australia, Australia L6 0.41 g 84
Camel Donga 037 Official 1994 Western Australia, Australia L6 8.7 g 84
Camel Donga 038 Official 1994 Western Australia, Australia H6 0.99 g 84
Camel Donga 039 Official 1994 Western Australia, Australia H6 3.57 g 84
Camel Donga 040 ** Official 1988 Western Australia, Australia CV3-an 55.1 g 87
Camel Donga 041 Official 1993 Western Australia, Australia L5 18.8 g 97
Camel Donga 042 Official 1993 Western Australia, Australia H3 37.6 g 97
Camel Donga 043 Official 1993 Western Australia, Australia L6 70 g 97
Camel Donga 044 Official 1993 Western Australia, Australia H6 15.3 g 97
Camel Donga 045 Official 1993 Western Australia, Australia H4 26.9 g 97
Camel Donga 046 Official 1993 Western Australia, Australia LL6 9.1 g 97
Camel Donga 047 Official 1993 Western Australia, Australia H4/5 28.3 g 97
Camel Donga 048 Official 1993 Western Australia, Australia L5 104.3 g 97

Camel Donga 049 Official 1993 Western Australia, Australia H3 13.6 g 97
Camel Donga 050 Official 1993 Western Australia, Australia LL6 19.9 g 97
Camel Donga 051 Official 1993 Western Australia, Australia H5 5 g 97
Camel Donga 052 Official 1993 Western Australia, Australia H3-an 61.4 g 97
Camel Donga 053 ** Official 2008 Western Australia, Australia LL5-6 579 g 101†
Dingo Pup Donga Official 1965 Western Australia, Australia Ureilite 122.7 g
Donga Kohrod Official Y 1899 Madhya Pradesh, India H6 230 g
Flood Donga 000 Reserved Australia Reserved Predefined nomenclature area without specimens
Johnny's Donga Official 1965 Western Australia, Australia Unknown


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Posted 23 August 2012 - 05:24 PM

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A really nice specimen, Peter. I bet, as you were photographing, it brought back fond memories about the day it arrived and your conversation with Haag.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 05:25 PM

Hi Davio,

Dog gone it, I didn't know you were a Donga collector.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 05:28 PM

Hi Davio,

Dog gone it, I didn't know you were a Donga collector.

Peter


Well, you dog gone better believe it! I just recently started...

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 05:37 PM

Woof! :grin:

Thanks for bringing this up; I'd not heard of the Dongos, and I love the names, so will add one or more to my "most wanted" list.

I've kind of gotten into collecting from the falls in the US. I'm not sure what would be at the top of my list, have to give that some thought! :thinking:

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 06:16 PM

I had been looking for a nice sized uncleaned Sikhote shrapnel for a while and finally found one a few weeks ago. Here it is:

http://www.flickr.co.../in/photostream

Not sure what will be next but I am always interested in fall individuals and oriented specimens. And a Portales Valley (high metal) upgrade has been on my list for a while and perhaps a small slice of Bovedy. Love those type 3 falls!

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 06:32 PM

Hi Jon,

Beautiful Sikhote. When I first started collecting the only Sikhote available were shrapnel pieces.

Peter

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 11:46 PM

Thanks for the compliment Peter and also for starting this interesting post. I hope we get some more responses to this one cause I would love to hear what other people are searching for!

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 04:08 AM

I had been looking for a nice sized uncleaned Sikhote shrapnel for a while and finally found one a few weeks ago. Here it is:

http://www.flickr.co.../in/photostream

Not sure what will be next but I am always interested in fall individuals and oriented specimens. And a Portales Valley (high metal) upgrade has been on my list for a while and perhaps a small slice of Bovedy. Love those type 3 falls!

Jon


Jon,
That SA is textbook. I have a few specimens from A. Langheinrich. He has a lot of one-of-a-kind pieces.

http://www.nyrockman.com/

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 04:25 AM


Hi Carol,
Here you go... Past IMCA Member.

http://www.wandering..._Meteorites.php

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:20 AM

Davio, Thank you! I've not seen this website! I especially like the slices, and they are within my budget; I thought they'd be more expensive.

So, thanks for the information & opportunity to add to my collection!

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:37 AM

Davio, Thank you! I've not seen this website! I especially like the slices, and they are within my budget; I thought they'd be more expensive.

So, thanks for the information & opportunity to add to my collection!


Nope! Not that expensive. You just have to look around.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 03:17 PM

Well as one of my main meteorite interests is in UK specimens, there were 4 falls on my 'most wanted' list. All of these fell into the 'impossible to acquire' category. The four were Killeter, Launton and Pontlyfni and Ashdon. I was recently and very surpisingly able to add the only piece of Killeter that i know of outside of a museum to my collection. A 1.2 gram fragment with cut face that is pictured below:

(http://msg-meteorite...reland/killeter)

The other three unfortunately i think will remain in the 'impossible to acquire' category as all three sit happily in the NHM London with no pieces ever traded out as far as i know. I will have to stick to just dreaming abut them :-)

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 04:25 PM

Well as one of my main meteorite interests is in UK specimens, there were 4 falls on my 'most wanted' list. All of these fell into the 'impossible to acquire' category. The four were Killeter, Launton and Pontlyfni and Ashdon. I was recently and very surpisingly able to add the only piece of Killeter that i know of outside of a museum to my collection. A 1.2 gram fragment with cut face that is pictured below:

(http://msg-meteorite...reland/killeter)

The other three unfortunately i think will remain in the 'impossible to acquire' category as all three sit happily in the NHM London with no pieces ever traded out as far as i know. I will have to stick to just dreaming abut them :-)

Cheers

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Hi Martin,
Welcome home. How was your Wold Cottage trip? Did you kiss the tower for me? Of all the UK falls/ finds, how many do you have of the total?

P.S. Oh! Don't forget to mail out my MT.

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 04:52 AM

Davio, We had a great time, thanks and i did indeed kiss the monument :-) And no worries your MT has been shipped this morning, email incoming shortly with additional details.

Regards UK falls/finds, the total list stands as follows:


ENGLAND

ALDSWORTH, Gloucestershire, Stone(LL5), fell 1835
APPLEY BRIDGE, Lancashire, Stone(LL6), fell 1914
ASHDON, Essex. Stone (L6), fell 1923
BARWELL, Leicestershire, Stones(L6), fell 1965
DANEBURY, Wessex, Stone(H6), found 1974
GLATTON, Cambridgeshire. Stone(L5), fell 1991
HAMBLETON, Yorkshire, Pallasite, find 2005
HATFORD, Berkshire. Stones(type?), fell 1628
LAUNTON, Oxfordshire, Stone (L6), fell 1830
MIDDLESBROUGH Yorkshire, Stone (L6), fell 1881
ROWTON, Shropshire, Iron(IIIA), fell 1876
STRETCHLEIGH, Devonshire, fell 1623
WOLD COTTAGE, Yorkshire, Stone (L6), Fell 1795
LAKE HOUSE, not yet classified

SCOTLAND

GLENROTHES, Fife. Stone (H4?), found 1998
HIGH POSSIL, Strathclyde, Stone (L6), fell 1804
PERTH, Perthshire, Stone (LL5), fell 1830
STRATHMORE, Perthshire, Stone (L), fell 1917

NORTHERN IRELAND

BOVEDY, County Londonderry, Stones(L3), fell 1969

IRELAND

CRUMLIN, County Antrim, Stone (L5), fell 1902
DUNDRUM, County Tipperary, Stone(H5), fell 1865
KILLETER, County Tyrone, Stones(H6), fell 1844
LEIGHLINBRIDGE, County Carlow, Stones(H6?), fell 1999
LIMERICK, County Limerick, Stones(H5), fell 1813
MOORESFOOT, County Tipperary, Stone(H5), fell 1810
PETTISWOOD, Westmeath, Stone (type?), fell 1779

WALES

BEDDGELERT, Gwynedd, Stone (H5), fell 1949
PONTLYFNI, Gwynedd, Stone (anomalous), fell 1931


Of these, Hatford, Stretchleigh and Pettiswood have no remaining pieces at all. Ashdon, Danebury, Launton, Middlesbrough, Beddgelert, Pontlyfni and Perth are all in museum collections and although pieces have been removed none as far as i am aware have surfaced in the collector market. Perth in fact has only 2 grams still intact!

So a total of 28 meteorites but only 25 with any pieces remaining. Take away the 8 'unobtainable' ones and that leaves 17. I am very lucky to have all these 17 represented in my collection and i also have a cast of the Fantastic oriented Middlesbrough stone and also a cast of the impact pit it made back in 1881!! Of these i would say Aldsworth and Killeter were the hardest (and most expensive!) to find. Some of the 'unobtainable' ones may possibly be available in the future, who knows but for now i cant see me adding any new UK specimens to my collection but am always keeping my fingers crossed ;-)

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 06:57 AM

Martin,

You have quite a nice collection and an interesting website, and that Middlesbrough cast is just outstanding! Look forward to hearing more from you here on CN.

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 07:43 AM

Thankyou Jon,my main collecting interests are UK and French historic specimens but i have plenty of others too :-)

I do try to keep up with forums but as i am a member of a few its hard to do. I do my best though and do read all the latest posts here even i dont regularly post. This is an interesting thread though and would love to see what is on others 'most wanted' lists :-)

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 07:48 AM

Davio, We had a great time, thanks and i did indeed kiss the monument :-) And no worries your MT has been shipped this morning, email incoming shortly with additional details.

Regards UK falls/finds, the total list stands as follows:


ENGLAND

ALDSWORTH, Gloucestershire, Stone(LL5), fell 1835
APPLEY BRIDGE, Lancashire, Stone(LL6), fell 1914
ASHDON, Essex. Stone (L6), fell 1923
BARWELL, Leicestershire, Stones(L6), fell 1965
DANEBURY, Wessex, Stone(H6), found 1974
GLATTON, Cambridgeshire. Stone(L5), fell 1991
HAMBLETON, Yorkshire, Pallasite, find 2005
HATFORD, Berkshire. Stones(type?), fell 1628
LAUNTON, Oxfordshire, Stone (L6), fell 1830
MIDDLESBROUGH Yorkshire, Stone (L6), fell 1881
ROWTON, Shropshire, Iron(IIIA), fell 1876
STRETCHLEIGH, Devonshire, fell 1623
WOLD COTTAGE, Yorkshire, Stone (L6), Fell 1795
LAKE HOUSE, not yet classified

SCOTLAND

GLENROTHES, Fife. Stone (H4?), found 1998
HIGH POSSIL, Strathclyde, Stone (L6), fell 1804
PERTH, Perthshire, Stone (LL5), fell 1830
STRATHMORE, Perthshire, Stone (L), fell 1917

NORTHERN IRELAND

BOVEDY, County Londonderry, Stones(L3), fell 1969

IRELAND

CRUMLIN, County Antrim, Stone (L5), fell 1902
DUNDRUM, County Tipperary, Stone(H5), fell 1865
KILLETER, County Tyrone, Stones(H6), fell 1844
LEIGHLINBRIDGE, County Carlow, Stones(H6?), fell 1999
LIMERICK, County Limerick, Stones(H5), fell 1813
MOORESFOOT, County Tipperary, Stone(H5), fell 1810
PETTISWOOD, Westmeath, Stone (type?), fell 1779

WALES

BEDDGELERT, Gwynedd, Stone (H5), fell 1949
PONTLYFNI, Gwynedd, Stone (anomalous), fell 1931


Of these, Hatford, Stretchleigh and Pettiswood have no remaining pieces at all. Ashdon, Danebury, Launton, Middlesbrough, Beddgelert, Pontlyfni and Perth are all in museum collections and although pieces have been removed none as far as i am aware have surfaced in the collector market. Perth in fact has only 2 grams still intact!

So a total of 28 meteorites but only 25 with any pieces remaining. Take away the 8 'unobtainable' ones and that leaves 17. I am very lucky to have all these 17 represented in my collection and i also have a cast of the Fantastic oriented Middlesbrough stone and also a cast of the impact pit it made back in 1881!! Of these i would say Aldsworth and Killeter were the hardest (and most expensive!) to find. Some of the 'unobtainable' ones may possibly be available in the future, who knows but for now i cant see me adding any new UK specimens to my collection but am always keeping my fingers crossed ;-)


Hi Martin,
Excellent! You should make a display of only your U.K. specimens. I once tried to secure a Bovedy (witnessed fall). My mother's maiden name is Bove. Bovedy is pricey and not easy to find. I think Schoolers has a specimen for sale - http://www.schoolers...eorites_p_4.htm . I have a 0.070 gram small specimen of Strathmore, a 1.22 gram part slice of Wold Cottage (Russ Kempton), a 0.010 gram fragment w/ Tower & Edward Topham photograph, and a 16.9 gram part slice of a Wold Cottage brick (Rob Elliott).

Note: Maybe you could post a photograph of the Middlesbrough stone and impact pit casts. I'd love to see them.

Davio R.

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 09:22 AM

Nice specimens Davio :-) The thing with most Uk specimens is that they are hard to find and therfore command a premium price. Bovedy is a gorgeous stone with stunning chondrules in. My Middlesbrough impact pit cast is stored in the garage at the moment as it is quite large and i need to find a nice way to display it. The Middlesbrough meteorite cast is shown on my collection pages, the direct link is below:

http://msg-meteorite...d/middlesbrough

It really is a stunning meteorite, i had the pleasure of seeing it in person and even handling it behind the scenes at the York museum where it is kept. However unfortunately i am unable to show any of the photos due to copyright issues.

Cheers

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 10:01 AM

Nice specimens Davio :-) The thing with most Uk specimens is that they are hard to find and therfore command a premium price. Bovedy is a gorgeous stone with stunning chondrules in. My Middlesbrough impact pit cast is stored in the garage at the moment as it is quite large and i need to find a nice way to display it. The Middlesbrough meteorite cast is shown on my collection pages, the direct link is below:

http://msg-meteorite...d/middlesbrough

It really is a stunning meteorite, i had the pleasure of seeing it in person and even handling it behind the scenes at the York museum where it is kept. However unfortunately i am unable to show any of the photos due to copyright issues.

Cheers

Martin


Martin,
That is remarkable. I can picture it speeding through the atmosphere ablating along it's path. I can't imagine handling it. That must have been a good day for you.

Davio R.






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