ATIK on Mac.. how many would use?
Posted 25 August 2012 - 05:26 AM
Just out of curiosity how many people here use ATIK and a Mac?
The reason I ask is that ATIK have kindly, under NDA for the source code, to bring the ATIK driver to the mac.
I have developed a small driver test application that allows the driver to take images. Although it's not 100% ready for the CN grilling just yet, it's almost ready. I can test with the 383L+ and the Titan however it will support all including the new 4xx range.
Posted 28 August 2012 - 11:23 AM
We have just upgraded our telescopes substantially, moving from an 8 inch sct and 110mm doublet, to a 12 inch RC and a 130mm triplet, part of our 'prepare for retirement' plans. Next on the list, a few months down the road (when bank accounts recover from this purchase), will be an upgrade on our camera equipment, to go with the telescopes.
Will we consider the ATIK cameras? not a chance. As long as drivers etc are closed, and locked down by NDA, then we will be hostage to vendors that have a propensity to drop support for older stuff at some time in the future, which leaves us high and dry. We currently have starlight xpress cameras, and I have full documentation on how to write my own stuff for them. In the long term, it doesn't matter if they survive or not, we will be able to use those cameras for many many years, and in a pinch, I can write whatever software we need to keep them going.
As we move into choosing the cameras that'll go with our new (to us) telescopes, the vendor list will be limited to only those that provide full documentation, so we can support the cameras ourselves in the future. It's going to be a major investment, by the time we have two large format cameras, with filters mounted in filter wheels, we will be dropping a very large chunk of change. We will not settle for anything that can become obsolete and unusable because it's undocumented. We already have one camera like that, a mead dsi-pro, learned that lesson the hard way. It's only useful as a paperweight today, not heavy enough to be a doorstop, and no drivers available for any modern computer setup, with no documentation that would allow me to fix that.
I've only just started our research on camera upgrades, and will be gathering information for some time to come. So far, Starlight Xpress and FLI are on the short list, both have full support available in source code form, with enough documentation that I can deal with the cameras myself, for years to come if necessary. I haven't finished looking around, and I'll be going thru each vendor's documentation over the next few months, and confirming that it's good enough for dealing with the cameras, even after the vendor stops supporting them. Anything that doesn't pass that sniff test, will not be on our short list.
FYI, I did give the ATIK stuff a quick look, but, closed source wondows activex junk doesn't pass muster for us, it makes the camera a useless paperweight when the world moves forward, and the vendor isn't there to provide support. I would re-think that if the folks at ATIK added support for thier cameras to the linux indi repositories, so that we can build from scratch, onto any host platform we want, including non-intel based *nix computers.
Posted 28 August 2012 - 01:04 PM
AOSX development has been slow as I got married this year.
Posted 03 September 2012 - 03:47 PM
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Posted 17 November 2012 - 03:32 AM
This means it supports Titan, 300 series, new 400 series, 4000 and 11000. As AOSX is taking a while I'm focusing on getting a stand-alone driver complete.
Posted 03 December 2012 - 03:44 AM
I've also measured the Titan at 19.75 frames/sec over 5000 frames.
Posted 17 December 2012 - 04:20 PM
Posted 18 December 2012 - 05:20 PM
Any help on finding a USB extension cable (active) that can be used with a USB hub (active too) would be great. I need to run USB cams about 50 ft to my Mac, and in vain tried to get a RF45/USB extender to work, and an active USB cable I purchased is also not recognized by the mac as a generic usb hub, as the windows laptop picks it up as.
Interesting you've had problems.
I use non-powered 5 meter active repeaters - this is basically a 5 meter cable with a 1 port hub in the plug. This means the signal is terminated and re-transmitted. I connect two in series to give 10 metres so the signal is repeated twice.
I think the model you'll get in the US will differ from here but it's very close to this one: http://www.amazon.co...52/ref=sr_1_...
Power is the main issue with long lengths - don't expect the computer to be able to power it. It may appear to connect but will have issues when transmitting.
2x5M seems fine with the MBP's two ports. Connecting the 383L directly is fine however a passive USB HUB has issues (connecting a glowing cable (or mouse) is a great way to detect this. I use a powered USB 2.0 hub that looks suspiciously like this one:
Without the 5V power to the hub, my blue glowing cable shows the power problem, the Titan refuses to behave as the hub can't draw the required power through the extensions from the MBP.
This hub fits nicely on my EQ6.
If you still have problems - it's worth noting that even with the hub plugging into the extensions.. the extensions probably draw their power from the laptop end so try:
MBP USB port A -> powered hub A -> extensions -> powered hub -> devices.
MBP USB port B-> powered hub B -> extensions -> powered hub -> devices.
Posted 19 December 2012 - 04:08 PM
I would LOVE to see Atik on the Mac, and in Software Bisque's TheSkyX. Most of the big players on now supported in TheSkyX: Sbig, FLI, QSI, and soon to be StarlightXpress - come on Atik!
Plans are afoot..
Posted 23 December 2012 - 04:51 AM
* Nebulosity & PHD - AOSX+ATIK
* TheSkyX - ATIK on X2 (their interface protocol)
* Equinox is interested in AOSX
Still waiting to hear from a few others.
I'm just going through the final sets of testing of the alpha release - there will be a few limitations (no guide port, untested OSC etc initially) but more of that later.
I may create the OpenPHD AOSX integration myself at the same time as it integrates with EQMac. I can image capture & setpoint easily enough with XCode in the short term.
Posted 25 December 2012 - 04:24 PM
So I'm comfortable with the Alpha release for the 383L (ie the 3&4 series), the Titan and I'm just finishing off the same level of testing for the 16IC. Literally every permutation of binning, sub-framing and preview mode has been checked..
I have a 4000 carcass which has allowed me to get so far but it doesn't complete the startup (as it has no sensor etc).
There are a few little things (oversample, overlapped exposures, guideports, OSC) aren't checked/tested in the alpha release.. however imaging with binning, sub-framing, preview modes along with the EFW2 makes for a good starting point.
I will put a developer's guide together tomorrow, along with finishing the 16IC. Then we're looking very close to an experimental alpha..
Posted 25 December 2012 - 04:53 PM
Posted 31 March 2013 - 03:31 AM
I would love to run my 314L+ on the iMac
Very frustrating having to use Windows.
Posted 12 April 2013 - 03:36 PM
Any news on the solution to run the Atik on a Mac yet?
I would love to run my 314L+ on the iMac
Very frustrating having to use Windows.
This is coming along nicely. I'm about to release the alpha4 release which has a number of bug fixes in both the driver and example application since the alpha3 release.
I feel that given the current state, the A4 release is looking like it could turn into the first beta where people are more inclined to start building into applications (infact I know there are people waiting!).
I spent a recent star party with the A3 release, using it and testing against other camera models of willing volunteers - including the modern 460EX and the old legacy 16HR! Before that I had the luxury of using, not one, but two 11000 monos whilst in the south of france for testing (many thanks Olly!).
Posted 05 May 2013 - 12:58 PM
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Posted 27 July 2013 - 05:18 PM
I'm creating a 10.6 version of the drivers but I'm 1/2 way through that (still need todo testing) - Craig Stark is waiting on these!
House purchase slowing things a little!
Posted 02 August 2013 - 12:50 PM
Heavy testing is in progress:
* 4-series working (a minor bug fix)
* Titan and 383L working nicely
I'm taking a loan of a 4000 and 11000 (oh yes!) to attach to the Pentax for some final heavy testing!
Posted 09 August 2013 - 11:42 AM
My weekend is a final hardcore testing session for the OSX drivers I've been writing. The 428ex through 490ex have already been tested and work nicely.
Steve at ATIK has kindly loaned me a 11000 and 4000 for testing for the weekend.
I'll probably try putting together a through the scope comparison tomorrow .. but for now.. let the testing commence!
Posted 12 August 2013 - 02:00 AM
Low res video: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=FrXwn-f9qmQ
Full resolution Image capture from video on flickr (click to follow link):
capture-2013-08-10 14:49:33 +0000-1 by Nick and Sandrine, on Flickr
Full resolution Image capture from video on flickr:
capture-2013-08-10 15:18:06 +0000-1 by Nick and Sandrine, on Flickr
I did find a few bugs which have been fixed and all the cameras are purring away - onwards with the release!
Posted 16 August 2013 - 02:25 AM
I started this project back in July 2011 in my spare time.. (when I had some). Thank you to Sandrine, my lovely french redhead, for putting up with my obsessive coding!