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#1 dcx3420

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 12:21 AM

I have been offered a Q-4 for $1000 that looks to be in pretty good condition. The owner has not used it for at least 20 some years, and is not very knowledgeable regarding telescope.

I have owned two Q-6 in the past and one had coatings on the primary that were starting to turn blue, the other one the diagonal was clouding around the edges. I know these scope come with a risk.

I asked him to look at the primary and diagonal, he said he did not know what he was looking for, I tried to explain to him what to look for , but all he said was, to him it looked ok.

He is around 85 years old. He seemed trustworthy on the phone. I did get him to send me some photos that I will attach.

I am concerned if I need a new diagonal and focusing belt are they still available. I called Davro and was told to email Jay that handles the Q's now that Allen has left. I did that but my email has not been answered.

The price includes a 16mm UO Koeing and 8mm Brandon, full app QTI solar filter and the wooden case.

It sounds like a good deal, but I do not want to buy a $1000 headache either.

Serial # is GH102252C.


You thoughts are appreciated

Gary

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 12:33 AM

Another one of the Q-4

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 12:34 AM

The Optics look to have some dew spots, the marks on the right side look like flash to me..

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 12:35 AM

This is a little better photo of the optics....

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 11:24 AM

I cannot offer a personal opinion, but SteveMM (mainly over on the Classic Telescope Forum) rebuilt one completely several years ago and may be able to offer insight.


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Posted 13 October 2012 - 12:47 PM

Thanks, I went to the "User List" but could not find SteveMM....

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 03:13 PM

Here is a link to one of his recent posts. You should be able to PM him from there.

http://www.cloudynig...5/o/all/fpart/1

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 04:07 PM

Thank you Keith, I just sent Steve a PM asking him to have a look at my post...

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 05:01 PM

Hi Gary,

I just sent you a PM with information. The scope pictured looks nice and you are getting a good discount at $1000. Sure would be nice if he has the tabletop legs and maybe a few other items not pictured.

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 09:37 PM

Thanks Steve, yes legs would be nice. Not shown is a 8mm Brandon and OTI full app solar filter.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 10:48 PM

Looks very good to me as well. Even without the legs it's worth nearly twice what is being asked.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 05:51 PM

Definitely a good deal and pretty much the same price I got mine for just a few months ago. I only got two of the legs with mine but I did get alot of original correspondence letters and the original bill of sale, as well as manuals and brochures from OTI. The optical and build quality are superb. I ended up getting a brand new Meade #884 tripod with carry bag off Ebay for $30 and it works perfectly with the Quantum. Mine just happens to be S/n 218C. I see yours has the "C" also which was for enhanced silver coatings. A $165 option in 1978.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 06:21 PM

Thanks guy's. It also comes with an extra eyepiece, an 8mm Brandon & a full aperture solar filter from OTI @ $187.50 in their 1980 catalog...

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 12:15 AM

Definitely a good deal and pretty much the same price I got mine for just a few months ago. I only got two of the legs with mine but I did get alot of original correspondence letters and the original bill of sale, as well as manuals and brochures from OTI. The optical and build quality are superb. I ended up getting a brand new Meade #884 tripod with carry bag off Ebay for $30 and it works perfectly with the Quantum. Mine just happens to be S/n 218C. I see yours has the "C" also which was for enhanced silver coatings. A $165 option in 1978.


Who was the salesman on the bill of sale?

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 05:47 AM

Hi Keith, I dont wnat to drift to far here on Gary's thread but the name listed on the order form was James P. Skinner. I also have correspondence from Robert R. Richardson (Vice Pres.) and Paul G. Shenkle (Sales Mngr).

Note the order number #55 and my S/n is GH102218C.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 11:39 AM

Ah this brings back memories :) . Jim Skinner was the Central States representitive if I remember correctly. The East Coast rep was Rodger Gordon.
I don't remember off the top of my head who the West Coast rep was. I haven't seen or heard anything from or about Bob Richardson in many, many years, probably not since 1980. I just saw Paul last year, he retired from Davro a few years ago.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 10:58 AM

After getting this reply from Davro, I will be looking for another scope. Seller may have already sold it. I was putting off replying to him until I heard from Davro....



We will be pleased to quote on refurbishing your Quantum-4 Davro Lens.

Our standard Evaluation Fee is 1,850.00 each. After we receive the unit and evaluate what the problem is we prepare a quotation for the Repair Costs. This cost is over and above the Evaluation Fee. All prices quoted are F.O.B., Lansdale, PA. 19446. The purpose of the evaluation fee pays to disassemble and examine the inside of the lens to see what other work may have to be done. Are terms are a check with the order.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 12:33 PM

Why are they are assuming that there is a problem or that there is a need to even disassemble the scope? It should be easy to evaluate the scope's optics by sight and the mechanics by feel. This price sounds very similar to a construction company overbidding a job because they have too much work already and really don't want the work.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 04:14 PM

Our standard Evaluation Fee is 1,850.00 each.


Is this correct???

Sounds like it may be cheaper to send it to the E.R. for a CAT scan or MRI to see what's wrong with it internally. :foreheadslap:


Really sorry to hear this.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 07:03 PM

I was floored when I read the email, the secretary did say it was very expensive just to check it out. In the email I told them I wanted to know if they had diagonals and the focusing belt, dew shield, leg, etc..

I really wanted to talk with someone, but was told all Quantum business was done via email.

The reply was from: John Daveler President of Davro Optical Systems.

At first I was told a person there named Jay was going to reply to me.

I called back and told the secretary that no one replied back and left my email address, then I got the reply from John.

I don't think they want to deal with Quantum owners any more, at least this is my experience. It's not like when Allan was there...

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 09:21 PM

Davro Optical didn't have the time of day to give me when I called them for advice. The grossly unreasonable quote you got may reflect the fact that they seem to have limited their business to govt. contracts. If you need optics help I would call Cumberland Optics, for anything else I would contact Warren Kutok at Photon Instrument Ltd. These are excellent, helpful and courteous people.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 07:07 AM

Shocking price-quote just to diagnose the state the Quantum 4 is in. That has no relation to the actual amount of time necessary to perform such work.

Questar is a company that takes much better care of it's products and customers, even long after they were sold new :bow:

For US$ 800,- my Q7 would get a complete overhaul of everything by Mother Q!

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 09:41 AM

If they charge $1850 just to look at it, I hate to see how much they charge to fix it. You can buy a perfectly working used Questar for that much.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 10:45 AM

Thanks J, I will keep your info on hand. If I do end up with a 4" or 6" Quantum it will be one that has been semi restored, a new focuser belt or the focuser mod and a new dianonal..






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