Astronomics Shipping the New Delos
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I am interested in some of the Delos eyepieces. Do you have any other TV eyepieces that you can compare them to, like the Panoptics? Bill
Awhile back I did a shoot out on Jupiter with a 6mm Delos, 6mm Radian, and 12mm Nagler coupled with a 2X Powermate. This was done using a 12.5 inch, F5 Portaball. The Delos provided the sharpest on and off axis views. I like making these A B comparisons viewing a major planet, globular, and galaxies/nebula. The most helpful for me are the major planets--Jupiter and Saturn. The differences in on axis images are subtle and often minor. Its sort of visiting Best Buy and seeing 30 High Def televisions against the wall. They all have pretty good images, but there is always one or two that stand out. I like the 20mm of eye relief of the Delos line, and the 72 degrees of AFOV is a nice place to be. It is less than the Nagler, but a nice bump up to the Radian line the Delos replaced. Most important, the images a Delos produces are tack sharp. Here is a posting I made awhile back. I now want to compare the Delos I own to some Naglers and other eyepieces.
Posted 28 October 2012 - 05:41 PM
Posted 28 October 2012 - 07:48 PM
Of course the expectation would be that the Delos would win, at $100 higher price.
Maybe, maybe not. Most of my viewing friends don't invest in high end eyepieces, so I can't make these kind of direct compassion. I can't afford to buy a bunch just to try out. True, they can be sold, but at a loss and hassle. Once I get comfortable with an eyepiece line, I tend to stick with it. I love the Delos line in all respects. I have a 5mm Pentax XO on order and I am looking forward to trying it out. I may pick up a Brandon in the 6-9 mm range just to answer the question of how they perform, especially on planetary detail, compared to the Delos. Lastly, I have learned to trust my own eyes. I believe I can see subtle differences in detail quite well, and have learned to base my opinions on eyepieces in what I see through them.
Posted 28 October 2012 - 08:04 PM
--I thought Astronomics had sold out of the 14, but they're filling my order today! yay! I've been waiting for this eyepiece for quite a while now...
Posted 29 October 2012 - 09:59 AM
I love the Delos line in all respects. I have a 5mm Pentax XO on order and I am looking forward to trying it out. I may pick up a Brandon in the 6-9 mm range just to answer the question of how they perform, especially on planetary detail, compared to the Delos. Lastly, I have learned to trust my own eyes. I believe I can see subtle differences in detail quite well, and have learned to base my opinions on eyepieces in what I see through them.
I wrote about the Delos/Brandon comparison here, post #5179553 back on April 18th.
It's easy to get excited about a piece of equipment after a great night. However all these months later I am still very enthusiastic about the Delos, it is the eyepiece I have been waiting on for years. That being said, you'll almost certainly get a slight improvement in views with a quality ortho such as a Brandon. Delos is of course more versatile due to it's field, so if you are building out an eyepiece collection getting them first makes sense. However, the cost of Brandons is lower, so adding them to the mix is easier. Which you get first depends upon your primary observing interest but in the end the result is the same - you're under-equipped if you don't have both.
Posted 30 October 2012 - 10:21 AM
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 04:18 PM
They are both very comfortable. The LVW may be slightly easier to look through but the eye cup is just a little to high to be optimal for my face which makes me prefer the Delos with its adjustable eye guard.
The difference in AFOV feels much larger than what you'd think from the stated 65 vs 72. I have no doubt the numbers are right but the Delos AFOV feels expansive while the LVW feels slightly constricted.
They are both very very sharp.
There is a little lateral color in the LVW.
The LVW has an ever so slightly warmer tone to it. Taken to extremes I'd describe it as dark orange tint while the Delos is pure white. Of course the real difference is subtle, that is just how I would describe the hues.
I feel the LVW has a darker image. Now this last part is problematic of course, because of the difference in focal length and hence in magnification. In a sense, the view should be darker because of the added magnification but hear me out. When I compare the views on open clusters, the fainter stars are just a little harder to see in the LVW. Since I observe I light polluted skies, and the magnifications are still rather low, I would think the opposite should be true, the added magnification should help me in these circumstances but it does not in this case. This perception of a darker image is one I haven't been able to shake trough many observation sessions but given the differing focal lengths you'll have to take it with a grain of salt. Still, that is my impression.
Over all I prefer viewing through the Delos.
I actually think the physical design of the LVW is better from a handling perspective, it has a nice solid feel and is dual barreled, in a good way (not like the non-SX Ethos where the 1.25" barrel is basically unusable but like the Hyperions).
In conclusion, they are both excellent eyepieces. The perceived darker image is the only reason I'm seriously considering if I should get the 8mm Delos. The other differences make me want an 8mm Delos but this part is what might actually make me buy one to compare.
I hope these observations can be of help to those of you wondering about the differences between the two eyepiece lines.
Posted 02 November 2012 - 09:42 AM