Posted 13 November 2012 - 12:04 PM
Need some suggestions for a new scope set-up. I have been using a pair of Pentax 12x50 bino's on a camera tripod for about the last year and half. Its quick, easy to move around and overall happy with it. Tripod could be better though.
I let my 10" Dob and 8" Newt go to a coworker, was spending more time on set-up (especially the EQ mount) than using the scopes. They were just too much too fast (I was succeptiable to apeture envy at the time i guess)
So....I have been looking at the C90, C5 and C6 as well as Orions Maks. I like the price and small size of the C90. The C5 would probably be the better scope for my current observing habits but the price keeps pushing me toward the C6. My 10" dob was from orion so I checked their maks first and price wise im leaning toward the Celestron. I know Orions scopes are quality but my price range is steering me toward the C6. Not saying the C6 is cheap but looking at the OTA the C6 seems to be a great deal at $400.
My budget is $500. The C6 with a good mount is gonna put me a little over but I dont want to end up with a C90 and a C6 if ya know what I mean. Iinitially I want to get a usable set-up for around $500. I know I will be putting well over $500 in the total set-up after eyepiecs, barlow etc........but thats later down the road.
Will be using for solar system, solar filter as well and some of the brighter deep sky stuff.
I have spent some time looking at tripods but there are so many with so many options. Found a few in the $100 range that would support up to the C6 but not sure about the quality and how to couple the C6 to the head. Also, like the Altazimuth mounts with the slow motion cotrols but these would but me a little over budget. Really want to go with a tripod but If the Altazimuth are better mounts I can live with the extra cost. No photos this time so not interested in a go-to or EQ mount.
I dont want another reflector. I have looked at a few refractors but really dont know what im looking at.
The more I think about it the more I want the C6. I know im straying from the ease of the bino set-up but with the scope and mount it should be in the 20-30 pound range at best. So if I could get some suggestions or insight on this set up it would be great
Posted 13 November 2012 - 12:15 PM
Posted 13 November 2012 - 12:24 PM
Unfortuniatly I was talking about a camera tripod. Looks like my budget will have to go to $600 now.
Posted 13 November 2012 - 12:32 PM
Posted 13 November 2012 - 12:33 PM
I'm thoroughly enjoying the used Celestron 6SE I picked up. 2 star Auto-Align is a snap and these can be found on the CN classifieds & the other site routinely around $500-$600 range.
I agree w/ Unc Rod. $100 mount with a scope this size may be a waste of $$
Posted 13 November 2012 - 12:45 PM
Posted 13 November 2012 - 12:54 PM
Really liking the AT Voyager. Kinda off topic but can I adapt my binocs to this mount?
Disregard the ring question, just looked at a few more pics of it..
Posted 13 November 2012 - 12:55 PM
Posted 13 November 2012 - 01:08 PM
What will the rings cost? And according to specs, I should be looking at around 25 pounds for the OTA and mount?
Looks like the mount won't be available for a while.
Posted 13 November 2012 - 01:28 PM
Your weight estimate is about right. Here's a link to the rings I'm using. The Voyager has been OOS at Astronomics for some time now. Mine is white but now they're dark gray. The same mount is currently available here . I'm using an AstroTech dovetail bar since the Celestron wasn't drilled for rings. I think it was about $25. The whole setup is very rigid and easy to move in and out of the house.
Posted 13 November 2012 - 01:33 PM
I may have to order the mount first considering the availabily. Thanks again
Posted 13 November 2012 - 01:48 PM
Posted 13 November 2012 - 02:57 PM
Posted 13 November 2012 - 03:30 PM
Posted 13 November 2012 - 03:50 PM
rguasto's solution is also viable. I opted for the 2" screw on diagonal which rides closer to the visual back and didn't leave room for the long focuser knob underneath. Some things will depend on your choice of diagonal. Note also that he has set the mount arm on the left. This option, with either the straight or inclined setup is one of the strong points of this mount.
Posted 13 November 2012 - 04:12 PM
Rgustao, that's very nice as well. Think I will go your route initially, and later if I decide on the 2" I know it will work and what mods to do. Excluding the bino viewer, dew shield and i think the finder scope - is that everything that came with the OTA and mount? No special brackets or adapters needed to couple the tube to the mount?
Posted 13 November 2012 - 04:32 PM
Posted 13 November 2012 - 04:56 PM
A 2" diagonal isn't really advantageous.
I agree with this... regardless of what I did. Visually, I see no vignetting with a 27mm Panoptic or a 36mm Hyperion Aspheric but it's almost certainly there with the 36. I also agree that you will want to replace the stock diagonal.
Posted 14 November 2012 - 09:06 AM
Posted 14 November 2012 - 11:36 AM
Posted 14 November 2012 - 02:19 PM
I have access to dark skies at my place of employment. When we get new employees we give them "the tour" for training. I had one guy say that it looked like some clouds were coming in and I had to tell him that was actually the Milky Way.
Anyway, I work rotating shift, have about 40 minutes for break and that's the main reason for the binoc setup. I need a small fast setup for about 30 minutes of viewing at this location. 10 minutes to and from plus setup time gives me about 30 minutes.
I'm a few hours from McDonald's observatory, my dark sky site is 20 minutes away, does not compare to McDonald's but is pretty dark.
In retrospect I think the C6 may be too much and the C90 may be better for me.
What about the Vixen VMC110L - may be the middle ground scope for what I'm looking for.
Keep in mind I have been using the 12x50 binoculars and I'm not expecting the views the 10" dob had.
Thanks again guys.
Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:39 PM
I have a VMC110L that has fundamentally been replaced by the C6. These days it's used for solar observing with Baader solar film. This may be a good scope for your situation (especially on the PortaMount) but be advised it struggles for aperture at anything above 100x. Consider starting a new thread about the Vixen for some input. It's a very compact instrument and within the budget you originally stated.
Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:58 AM
Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:38 AM
It gives a lot more light than the C90..
but it is not too big to use during the day for a spotter or solar scope.
You can get the SLT version for about $450.00
That would leave you enough for a tripod for quick setups
with the included dovetail bar.
I have one and it is terrific!
I did happen upon a heavier tripod that got rid of the bouncyness but I used it for a year as is.