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#76 Meadeball

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 02:55 AM

How you gonna move that danged Dob when you're trying to center something in the finder? What a nightmare.

#77 csrlice12

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 01:21 PM

With it's self-contained cold fusion reactor of course......

#78 GOLGO13

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 01:46 PM

A friend of mine has observed through a 40 inch dob...said it was crazy good. Had to use an orchard ladder to look through it.

Considering the 30 inch I looked through wasn't even in that good of shape, I can only imagine what a high quality 40 inch would be like.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 10:06 PM

I camped next to a 40 inch home made dob this summer at the Oregon star party. The guy made the mirror out of fused plate glass. It weighed about 800 pounds and he needed a winch to load or unload it from the trailer. Fun to look through but we ended up mostly on very faint objects that were still on the edge of perception. He was looking for a permanent dark site to keep it at. It was a little too much hassle to transport. The ladder was a 16 foot Tallman astronomy ladder modified to have wheels to easy positioning.

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 04:48 AM

I camped next to a 40 inch home made dob this summer at the Oregon star party. The guy made the mirror out of fused plate glass. It weighed about 800 pounds and he needed a wench to load or unload it from the trailer. Fun to look through but we ended up mostly on very faint objects that were still on the edge of perception. He was looking for a permanent dark site to keep it at. It was a little too much hassle to transport. The ladder was a 16 foot Tallman astronomy ladder modified to have wheels to easy positioning.


Was it this scope:

Steve Swayze's 40 inch Dob

If so, it is hard to think of anything Steve Swayze builds as "Homemade."

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 06:08 AM

No. Here is a picture. I am amazed that I forgot the guys name. It may have been Scott. I camped next to him for 6 days. He said it took him 7 years to finish the mirror.

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#82 EddWen

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 01:33 PM

.... He was looking for a permanent dark site to keep it at....


http://darkskyobserving.com/

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 01:24 AM

Let's stay on topic in this thread,folks. At present it's about the 40 inch dob from the previous few postings. :cool:

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 02:09 AM

Let's stay on topic in this thread,folks. At present it's about the 40 inch dob from the previous few postings. :cool:


Exactly!
I don't have to visit reflector forum. It's right here. :jump:

Seriously, I go there on purpose to see how they store and cover their Reflectors when they take out refractors for most of the visual observing. :grin:

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 11:44 AM

I made dozens of reflectors from my little 4.25" f/8 in 1968 to my biggo 16.5" f/6.5 30 years later and my 10" f/30 Gregorian in between, but I always dreamed of owning a large refractor, a dream that I fulfilled a few years ago when I bought a AR-6. Of all my scopes two have a special place in my heart; climbing the ladder to the eyepiece of my 16.5" and sitting under my 6" achro. It breaks my heart when I read threads in one forum ripping apart the other. Variety is the spice of life, and I enjoy everything life and a limited budget have to offer.

Have fun!

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 04:02 AM

It breaks my heart when I read threads in one forum ripping apart the other. Variety is the spice of life, and I enjoy everything life and a limited budget have to offer.

Have fun!



:bow: :waytogo:

Though a good deal of the banter posted here, (this thread is a good example) is tongue-in-cheek, this is not the case far too often. Most of us suffer from the "my telescope is the best one" syndrome to a greater or lesser extent but in reality, all telescopes can provide enjoyable, satisfying views.

I consider it a virtue to have the attitude and skills to enjoy the night sky irregardless of ones equipment, be it a 60mm refractor purchased for $50 at Walmart or fancy telescope costing thousands of dollars.

I don't get the refractor only or the reflector only thing... they both have their place.

Jon

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:40 AM

I'll not talk down any of the other telescope design, if for no other reason at least because I don't have enough experience with them.

I sometimes go to the Reflector forum but on purpose, mainly to sit back and lurk and pick up ideas for a complement that I might get for my refractor. At least as often I go to the Cats and Casses forum for the same reason....

There's plenty of work for a smaller scope like my achro. I spent 75 minutes last Saturday night just studying Andromeda and star field at 4 different powers (27, 49, 69, and 118) and making drawings of it. I would have been out there a good bit longer but clouds rolled in and brought down the curtain on the performance of my achro....

I get reminded of the need for a bigger scope and for all sorts of reasons, it will work mostly with mirrors.

All major designs bring some advantages to the table.
Refractors: ruggedness, ease of use, image quality...
Reflectors: Bang for the buck, potential for owning a big scope (Dob)
SCTs amd MCTs: versatility, ease of use, ...


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Posted 10 December 2012 - 12:31 PM

"...be it a 60mm refractor purchased for $50 at Walmart..."

Whether for someone returning to or just starting out in the hobby, or for their child, the funds would be best spent on a slightly larger reflector, and available from numerous online vendors; Orion Telescopes, for instance.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 01:10 PM

"...be it a 60mm refractor purchased for $50 at Walmart..."

Whether for someone returning to or just starting out in the hobby, or for their child, the funds would be best spent on a slightly larger reflector, and available from numerous online vendors; Orion Telescopes, for instance.

Alan


Just to be clear, this is what I wrote:

"I consider it a virtue to have the attitude and skills to enjoy the night sky irregardless of ones equipment, be it a refractor purchased for $50 at Walmart or fancy telescope costing thousands of dollars."

I hope it is clear that I was not recommending a 60mm telescope but rather discussing the importance of the observer's skills and spirit/attitude. I am fortunate enough have some decent quality equipment but I do have a $40 at Walmart Celestron Powerseeker 70 which I occasionally drag out for an hour or two, it's enjoyable .. It's a worthwhile experience even if only to keep things in proper perspective.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 01:32 PM

I understand, but in that price range a bigger bang for the buck would be a larger reflector. They're rather smart and easy to maintain, often coming with a center-dotted primary and very good instructions; and for a child, a more sensible introduction.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 03:15 PM

As the OP of this thread it was just to be fun due to the fact I went to Reflector forum thinking I was in the Refractor forum. Being they are right next to each other and spelled almost the same barring 2 letters, I thought it was funny that I was in there and reading about what I thought were refractors and it took me a few minutes to realize I was in the wrong place. Not because I have anything against Reflectors just because I was wanting to get caught up on my favorite scope the Refractor and started to get confused. So it gave me a good laugh and thought I would share and see if others had done the same thing. Even those who might have come to the Refractor forum by mistake thinking they were in the Reflector. So this was just a fun thread to lighten the mood of the "Vs." "Which one?" and "Chinese made" threads. :)

But I do like the rivalry of our scopes, it is all in good fun, :p :p and I would gladly come and enjoy a view out from your huge light bucket reflector as you are welcome to come check out my awesome Refractor. It gets us all out under the stars and have camaraderie and make new friends as well as old ones we have made through this hobby. :jump:

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 08:52 PM

It gets us all out under the stars and have camaraderie and make new friends as well as old ones we have made through this hobby





And that's the bit that counts... :jump: :jump: :jump:

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:21 PM

Hi!

I've read a little in there myself, once by accident, thinking the same. It doesn't seem to be as widely read as the Refractor forum; however, you could probably look at the phenomenon, in each case, as both being a part of the unique interest that is amateur astronomy.

Here in Mississippi, one of the last, truly dark-sky regions, in the Eastern U.S., rises above French Camp, about a third of a mile off the Natchez Trace Parkway in the north-central part of the state, although the remainder is dark enough for satisfactory observing, outside the cities, even here in my county, despite the light domes of Memphis and the casinos. I haven't been too disappointed, when considering the map...

http://www.google.co...ight-satelli...

I just got home from work, and with my eyes well adapted after travelling, the sky glitters.

Men challenge each other at times, as it's in our nature. I suppose you could look at it as rivalry, true, but I also see it as just a first step in understanding one another.

The TEC triplet matched to the Tak mount...:cool:

Alan

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:31 PM

Not a lot of light pollution there Alan... You probably see more with the naked eye than I do through my scope... :bow:

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 10:00 PM

Geoff,

It's surprising to me, given the proximity to Memphis especially, that it's as dark as it is. If the casinos would shove off, it'd be like a closed closet in every direction but north, but they're here to stay.

You'd love the view of Orion from here towards the south, not far from the zenith, at about one in the morning. :watching: :whee:



Alan






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