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#26 Damo636

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:55 AM

If it were me, I would sell the 13mm and spring for either a 5mm LVW/XW at the high end, or a 30/31mm 82° at the low end. More often than not I jump straight from 21mm to 10mm but do on occasion reach for the 13mm if I need more fov to frame an object. I know for sure if I had anything between 13 & 21, it would end up not being used! I actually have been thinking lately if I had opted for the 17 Ethos over the 21mm, I could have skipped the 13mm altogether and had an even more minimalist line up :question:

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 09:38 AM

Marcus,

My basic set of eyepieces for my refractor are: Nagler 3-6 zoom, XW10 and LVW22. I know the step from 10 to 22 is quite big, but its OK for my refractor.

I like the LVW, but I will never sell the Pentax - that is just me.

I can accept your proposed 5 - 7XW - 13LVW - 22LVW line, and I think you would enjoy it. But I would really recommend to keep the Pentax. And an XW5 would be way better than the LVW5 ;)

So try the LVW13 for a while, and then decide. And don't look through any of those Ethy things!

Enjoy what you've got!

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:59 PM

Thanks for the replies and suggestions all! Tonight I will be doing a shoot out between the 10mm Pentax XW and 13mm Vixen LVW! I'll do deep sky and planetary, (barlowed for planetary), and post my results!

May the better man win! Let's hope there isn't too much blood shed between the two contenders! :lol:

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 08:46 PM

I just came in for a bit to warm up after trying both eyepieces outside. The skies cleared up just in time for a quick peek. Both eyepieces are really good in their own right alone.

I tried both eyepieces briefly on some deep sky targets, and then on Jupiter with my 2" GSO ED barlow. With the barlow I get roughly close to 200x in the 13mm Vixen LVW and with the 10mm XW I get close to 230-240x. Tonight the skies were not perfect for planetary viewing, so 200x was just right over the 230x with the 10mm XW.

I might just keep them both because I can go down to 200x when the seeing is not optimal! I'm going to go out again later on, (my telescope is still outside), and I'll evaluate them both some more.

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#30 Mike B

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 01:07 AM

Tonight the skies were not perfect for planetary viewing, so 200x was just right over the 230x with the 10mm XW.



I think that, right there, is the answer to this thread's question.
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 02:17 AM

After getting out and testing a second time, I have come to the conclusion that both eyepieces are excellent in their own right, but mostly with a barlow.
With my 2" GSO ED barlow I get roughly 200x using the 13mm Vixen LVW with it and I get roughly 240x using the 10mm XW!

So, I will be able to swap back and forth between the two if I need to bump the magnification up or down according to the conditions. Both eyepieces are really nice too! I find the comfort and eye placement on the Vixen LVW's easier than the XW's, but I really love the immersion factor I get from the XW's, so with both the Vixen LVW's and the Pentax XW's, you get the best of both worlds!


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Posted 12 December 2012 - 07:58 AM

Tonight the skies were not perfect for planetary viewing, so 200x was just right over the 230x with the 10mm XW.



I think that, right there, is the answer to this thread's question.
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Absolutely mike

Depending on the seeing conditions you need Eps with FL closer to each other around that breaking point.

This is even more true when having multiple scopes. I have a 10 and 14 mm EP and use both of them






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