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#51 jrbarnett

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 10:51 AM

Thanks John!

That's a very nice "clean up" of the CG5-GT.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 11:09 AM

That's a very nice "clean up" of the CG5-GT.


Nice turn of phrase, Jim. I wish I'd said that. ;) Yes, it's clearly an update and adds some missing features plus there may be some performance improvement as well. At $800 it could well be an even better value than the $700 CG-5GT was.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 11:57 AM

IMO, the Cg5's achilles heel was the lack of bearings in the DEC axis, that made imaging more challenging even with light loads. I hope the VX has bearings on both axes. I want to move away the idea of getting an iOptron for my portable setup...

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 01:26 PM

Theres some pics here

http://www.firstligh...ed-vx-mount....

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 01:53 PM

This looks like a definate upgrade from the old CG5AS, but I think I'll still spend the extra bucks for an HEQ5Pro when the time comes. If this works as advertized, good on Celestron.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 03:02 PM

Where is the power connection? I can't see it in the photo.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 03:41 PM

I don't know what bearing type it uses and I'm not about to take it apart to find out. What I can say is that it guides well in Ra and Dec.

The latitude adjustment goes down to slightly less than zero degrees, but I'm not sure if the counterweight will miss the tripod at low latitudes, that may be why it's specified as 7 degrees.

I ended up doing far less playing with/testing the mount than I hoped because of the continuous clouds but found that it was quite easy to set up guiding, just run the PHD guiding calibrate function. I think I did have PEC on.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 04:46 PM

Here it is on their web site:
http://www.celestron...edvx-mount.html

Price is $800
Latitude range is 7-77°

Here is a video by YouTuber CelestronDotCom
https://www.youtube....h?v=AiKDoxjmtmU

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 04:56 PM

I want one :p it looks so cool and it has a bunch of ergonomic upgrades like bigger knobs and reshaped housings. should be fun :p.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 06:21 PM

Anxiously awaiting this hitting the internet shelves. Looks like a viable option in today's market. Can't wait to hear reviews of this mount.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 07:43 PM

Where is there information about it? I looked on Celestron's site and on several vendor sites and can't find any mention of it.

Brian


Here's the link:
http://www.celestron...edvx-mount.html

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:40 AM

Probably I will buy one together with a C8 Edge :)

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:29 AM

I've been asked about the noise levels of this new mount.

I think it's slews are quieter than my AS-GT but it's not silent - except when tracking.

It has the reduced rate 9 speed option.

Chris

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:19 AM

I will never understand why people complain about CG5 slew noise, the mount is completely silent when tracking!

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:30 AM

Hi all, I don't think I have posted on this or any astronomy forum in quite a while. But I too was tapped to beta test the VX mount. I am not an imager, not even close, but I think it safe to say that anyone who liked the ASGT will like the VX even more. Everything about it is a bit nicer, a bit more robust, and of course up to date. It is amazing how the simple, simple addition of an RTC makes it more pleasant to use than its predecessor.

I scanned through the comments above and can answer a couple of questions I think have gone unanswered. The power connector is beside the thread on "south" polar axis cover. The power connector inserts parallel to the polar axis and it uses a connector with a threaded locking nut. The power cord is probably overly generous in length (I suppose for the benefit of those who power off an outlet in their cars) but it is decently heavy duty. It is the first Celestron supplied power cord that I have felt is worth using. To be fair I have not received one in quite a while and they may have upgraded their cords years ago, I remember the old, useless ones.

I've done a fair bit of testing with a Megrez 110 and a Celestron C6R which is counter weighted to move the eyepiece end a bit farther from the ground and comes in at 30 pounds before I add a diagonal or EP. For visual use it handles both of those loads like they aren't even there. So far I have run it down to 12 F (about -10 C) without any issues other than the expected LCD sluggishness. It points at least as accurately as any Celestron mount I own (Nexstar GPS, CGE, ASGT, CGEM), probably a bit better.

I would not say it is quieter than the original, although as Chris said it does have the reduced rate 9.

I think low latitude users will be happy with it. You will have to remove one of the adjustment screws. I believe if you live below about 5 deg you will have to tip the tripod slightly to get CW clearance. However it does adjust down to zero degrees and if you mount it on a permanent pier of small enough diameter it will be completely at home at the equator. Even at 42 degrees C6R owners like me will find that the focuser end of that OTA will crash into tripod legs during slews near the zenith so constant vigilance is required. Because of that I long ago purchased the 16 inch Orion pier extension for my ASGT. Be warned, although the Orion extension sorta fits the new mount and tripod you will have to remove the AZ adjust lugs and the mount head is not properly supported. So don't go there, you won't be happy. However if someone were to come out with a modified version of that pier extension or even just supply a modified upper mount head interface bracket for it you could have a completely portable setup that works fine at zero degrees and is free from long OTA crashes at any latitude. Just a hint to anyone, Celestron included, who owns a telescope mount accessory business....

Even though I don't image I am preparing to try to measure the PE and PEC. Wish me luck, I'm in way over my head! And like Chris my efforts to do more beta testing have been severely hampered by clouds. I've done enough to give it an enthusiastic thumbs up though!

Ken

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 10:57 AM

I will never understand why people complain about CG5 slew noise, the mount is completely silent when tracking!

Cheers,

Jose


Just by doing some minor adjustments I have quieted my CG-5s down from about the 70db range to the 55db range. The larger the scope the louder the mount. The OTA acts like a megaphone. Using 'Custom Rate 9' reduces the noise level even more.

Stan

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:04 AM

That is exactly what I am thinking too, Sedat.

It looks like they are offering a $100 savings on the C8 Edge HD + VX bundle (I assume "under $2000 means $1999).

Of course, if they end up clearing out Edge HD OTAs again and discounting the C8 version $200, buying the VX at full price and the OTA at a discount would be a better deal.

- Jim

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 01:54 PM

Hi Jim,

My CG5 served me without any headaches for almost 8 years. Last year I sold it and bought an Astrotrac as part of my increased mobility plans but still missing the functionality and ease of use of CG5. As soon as I saw the VX news, I made the decision :) What remains now is to turn this into a reality :) If we can get a good deal on the bundle, that would be the icing on the cake as you say.

I plan to buy a Hyperstar lens for the C8 for imaging at f/2, which would take care of most of the tracking issues in addition to PEC and guiding.

This will be my dream setup for shooting on the go.

Clear skies

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 03:25 PM

The VX mount alone is priced right ($799), assuming this isn't only an "introductory" price which goes to $999 or something like that soon. If it works as advertised - something we will all know in only few months - it's a mount/tripod combo which can be bought and used by many for both causual visual astronomy and casual astroimaging. I know I will consider buying one. It's still fairly portable and can carry a payload of up 30 lbs. Not bad and definitively beats the competitor, LX80, which is, besides having issues, anywhere between $850 and $1,000 (most places $999).

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 08:14 PM

I think this mount is a great idea, the question is, will it be enough to shake us from our already well loved ASGT's. I love the GoTo's I get with my Cg-5, and I just got my imaging set up working (yay). I will watch this mount and consider upgrading, but for me, the main thing to push me over the edge and buy it would be tracking performance and ease of use. Thumbs up for this little thing :D

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:17 PM

I just ordered one for my ES 127cf,they are supposed to start showing up in a few weeks

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 03:15 PM

Looks like a nice mount. I'm looking forward to the reviews. I'm very happy with my CG-5 GT mount which has very good tracking and goto. I'm a strictly visual observer and don't use anything heavier than a C8. The only concern I have is that the VX mount looks to be quite large. The CG-5 GT mount is fairly compact and fits in a Plano case.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 06:13 PM

Actually, just the plain CG-5 was a very good mount, and it was based on the vixen Super Polaris. So the idea of a fourth generation for this size and style is interesting.

-Rich

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 10:33 PM

Anything based on the SP is good, I agree, CG-5 is built on SOLID ground. I am also very pleased with my CG-5. I hope this mount succeeds, and continues to strengthen the hobby.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 10:57 AM

Well, what's cheery is that it seems to be an evolutionary product building on the strengths of past mounts and eliminating some weaknesses. Nothing "revolutionary" and apparently not subjecting early adopters to the role of alpha testers as Meade seems to do repeatedly. It is interesting that the Vixen SP/GP heritage is so strong. Certainly, Synta has sufficient experience with the Tak type Sirius/HEQ-5 that it could have gone that route. Perhaps keeping the weight down was determative.






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