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#1 PeterDob

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 04:33 AM

This was a particularly difficult drawing because the field of view was obviously covered in stars. But I tried to capture what I saw as well as possible. I wasn't able to fully resolve the lovely companion of M35, probably because 85x is a bit too low for that. Also the drawing isn't exactly finished because at a certain point the moon started to rise above the horizon and to make things worse a thick cloud began to cover the entire sky. But I got most of it anyway.

Cheers,

Peter

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#2 IVM

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:52 AM

I like the softness of stars and field edges in general. In this case, on my screen the extent of the halos around the stars indeed looks like a patch of haze was passing.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:37 AM

Peter.

Very very nice. Beautiful.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:38 AM

What a striking view. Thank you for posting it.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 06:24 PM

I am deeply impressed. Thanks for sharing!
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 06:53 PM

Truly splenid!

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 07:07 PM

Peter,

Love it. It is a tough one and gets more difficult with increasing aperture and increasing transparency as you no doubt know.

Frank :)

#8 PeterDob

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:21 AM

Thank you so much for your kind words! They mean a lot to me...:-)

Peter

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 01:35 PM

Peter,

Very good sketch of M-35 & NGC 2158 :).

CS,KLU,

:thanx:,

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 11:16 PM

Awesome sketch. One of my favorite FOVs because of the contrast between the 2 objects. Thanks for sharing!

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 03:47 AM

Wonderful Peter !
Looking at your stars, we can detect that you had some mist and moon.
Lovely.
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 10:48 AM

:waytogo:

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 02:11 PM

Peter.
Absolutely wonderful.

#14 Erik Bakker

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 05:24 AM

Very nice sketch Peter,

I had a similar view in my 16" a view nights ago. Nice to see NGC2158 resolved into stars :)

#15 PeterDob

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 07:23 AM

Heel erg bedankt, Erik! ;)

It's nice to hear that someone's had a similar view in a similar telescope because it means that my impression wasn't that far off. As I said, I could hardly see individual stars in NGC2158 because 85x were a bit too few for that. But I did see some...

Thanks again to all of you.

Cheers,

Peter

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 08:46 AM

The realism of the drawing is spectacular, Peter! Good for you to get what you can despite the limitation of conditions.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:55 PM

Peter,

I was just looking at this object last night and thought I had seen a recent post about it. Sorry to take so long to look at your drawing--you really did a fine job on it. Those arcing strings of stars in M35 really catch the eye.

I was much too intimidated by all the stars in this OC to attempt a sketch--hats off to you. NGC 2158 is more my speed--a hazy patch of light. I looked at it at 170x and it still looked like a hazy patch, but the 1st quarter Moon and very poor seeing were limiting factors. I suspect the stars you recorded in your sketch are foreground stars since 2158 is ~16,000 lys distant. What do you think?

Anyway, you have inspired me to sketch 2158 first chance I get. Thanks for posting your fine drawing. :)

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 01:17 PM

Well, Michael, you do have a point. I did see some individual stars and those are the ones I drew. On the other hand, I haven't looked at it at high mags recently, but nevertheless I believe that resolving it is certainly doable, just like you can easily resolve globulars that are even further out. Next time (when hopefully the sky becomes clear again... it's been cloudy for a week here...) I'll try it at 150x-200x. :)

Cheers and thanks again for the kind words,

Peter

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:58 AM

Peter,

I have never studied NGC 2158 carefully (until now) but my guess too, is that under favorable circumstances and high enough magnification it should at least show granulation and perhaps resolve to stars. It is a very large and dense open cluster and was historically taken for a glob by some astronomers. More info here:
http://messier.seds.org/m/m035.html

I think I'll ask around in the DSO forum and see what people there have observed. Conditions here are clear but continue with poor seeing and moonlight so I think I'll wait until Luna begins to wane and have a high power look then.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:23 AM

This afternoon the sky over here cleared out and visibility is currently >10km. So that promises for tonight. But as you said, Luna'll be a restrictive factor. But on NGC2158 it shouldn't cause to many problems, at least to see whether it does resolve or not. I'll let you know! :)

Peter

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:16 AM

Hi Peter,

I got this feedback from some experienced observers in the DSO forum. So perhaps those stars you saw and recorded were in the cluster and not in the foreground like I conjectured. I'm looking forward to getting another look at 2158 under better conditions--hope you do, too. :)

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 01:21 PM

Thanks, Michael! So it looks like my observation was correct. :D I haven't been able to check again the other day because cloud patches and the bright moon prevented me from doing some serious observation. But I hope that once the full moon's gone I can have another try.

Thanks a lot!!!

Peter

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 01:45 PM

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Ya know.. when I look at that, memories of cold evenings at the eyepiece come flooding back. That doesn't happen with images from a camera :grin:

Awesome!!

Jason

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:24 PM

You're so kind, Jason... But whether it's my drawing or somebody else's, you're right. Not one photo can deliver the same sensation like when you're out there with the telescope. Thanks for the wonderful comment. :)

Peter






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