Jump to content


Photo

20-144x70 binoculars on AM

  • Please log in to reply
28 replies to this topic

#1 edwincjones

edwincjones

    Close Enough

  • *****
  • Posts: 8700
  • Joined: 10 Apr 2004

Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:14 AM

will trade for something of equal value

:question: :question:

edj

#2 aa5te

aa5te

    Genial Procrastinator

  • *****
  • Posts: 1497
  • Joined: 30 Aug 2008
  • Loc: Clinton, TN

Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:58 AM

I have a shovel with, ummm, no shovel part. Wonder if that would work?

#3 BillC

BillC

    on a new path

  • *****
  • Posts: 4391
  • Joined: 04 Jun 2004
  • Loc: Lake Stevens, WA, USA

Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:14 AM

How about my Pet Rock? He died in the 80s, but I haven't noticed much difference.

BillC

#4 rydberg

rydberg

    Viking 1

  • *****
  • Posts: 911
  • Joined: 25 Feb 2004
  • Loc: Richmond, KY, USA

Posted 24 January 2013 - 09:55 AM

Well, I'd take money to take it off the owner's hands.
I think $50 for pain and anguish ought to do it...
Marco

#5 planetmalc

planetmalc

    Ranger 4

  • -----
  • Posts: 314
  • Joined: 21 Oct 2009

Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:24 AM

It's easy to knock stuff like this, but the unit may have some unexpected merits. I have an old Bresser 9-30 x 63 zoom which has all the usual faults when used throughout its zoom range, but has optics so good that it will show banding on Saturn when mounted and used at 30x.

#6 BillC

BillC

    on a new path

  • *****
  • Posts: 4391
  • Joined: 04 Jun 2004
  • Loc: Lake Stevens, WA, USA

Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:47 AM

"It's easy to knock stuff like this . . ."

It is much easier when you’ve had years at the optics shop counter and had to tell hundreds of people that the cost of even a MINOR repair will be more than their binos did new! Or, perhaps, tell them that the exit pupil at 144-power is less than HALF A MILLIMETER, which is usually followed by:

“Whats an ‘exit pupil.’”

I came by my curmudgeonosity honestly over a heartbreakingly long period.

Cheers,

BillC

#7 edwincjones

edwincjones

    Close Enough

  • *****
  • Posts: 8700
  • Joined: 10 Apr 2004

Posted 24 January 2013 - 01:41 PM

I tried out one of these at Sharper Image-the worst,
most unusable binoculars I have ever tried.
Even worse than the $2 kid toy binoculars.

makes those $9.95 ruby coated binos look like quality

edj

#8 edwincjones

edwincjones

    Close Enough

  • *****
  • Posts: 8700
  • Joined: 10 Apr 2004

Posted 24 January 2013 - 01:44 PM

How about my Pet Rock? He died in the 80s, but I haven't noticed much difference.

BillC



I would much rather have the Pet Rock

edj

#9 Rich V.

Rich V.

    Skylab

  • *****
  • Posts: 4123
  • Joined: 02 Jan 2005
  • Loc: Lake Tahoe area, Nevada, USA

Posted 24 January 2013 - 01:52 PM

I tried out one of these at Sharper Image-the worst,
most unusable binoculars I have ever tried.
Even worse than the $2 kid toy binoculars.

makes those $9.95 ruby coated binos look like quality

edj


+1 on that! Horrible binoculars. :p

Rich

#10 KennyJ

KennyJ

    The British Flash

  • *****
  • Posts: 34241
  • Joined: 27 Apr 2003
  • Loc: Lancashire UK

Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:01 PM

Add me to the list of those who has actually TRIED them-- just out of curiosity,mind!

They really are as bad as any words could possibly describe, and have NO MERITS, unexpected or otherwise.

Kenny

#11 rydberg

rydberg

    Viking 1

  • *****
  • Posts: 911
  • Joined: 25 Feb 2004
  • Loc: Richmond, KY, USA

Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:39 PM

I like to putter in the kitchen...
You could use the barrel of one of these to ground peanuts, couldn't you?
:smash:
Marco

#12 SMark

SMark

    Apollo

  • *****
  • Posts: 1128
  • Joined: 29 Aug 2011
  • Loc: Atlanta, GA USA

Posted 25 January 2013 - 02:20 AM

Oh, it gets even better...

Check out this eBay auction. They are even trying to sell the defective ones for too much...

Is this completely nutz, or what? :roflmao:

#13 BillC

BillC

    on a new path

  • *****
  • Posts: 4391
  • Joined: 04 Jun 2004
  • Loc: Lake Stevens, WA, USA

Posted 25 January 2013 - 02:50 AM

The Admin and Mods won't let me share my feelings about these . . . VENDORS, for whom I have other names. But I will have my book, eventually. And when I do, I will give new meaning to ripping a new one.

Boiling Bill

#14 CuriousOne

CuriousOne

    Explorer 1

  • -----
  • Posts: 54
  • Joined: 22 Jan 2013

Posted 25 January 2013 - 03:47 AM

But they do differ in price. so, $99 and $399 ones are completely same in terms of quality?

#15 SMark

SMark

    Apollo

  • *****
  • Posts: 1128
  • Joined: 29 Aug 2011
  • Loc: Atlanta, GA USA

Posted 25 January 2013 - 04:33 AM

There might be some differences, since the Chinese manufacturer does allow various options. But all the options in the world won't change the fundamental weakness of the design.





#16 CuriousOne

CuriousOne

    Explorer 1

  • -----
  • Posts: 54
  • Joined: 22 Jan 2013

Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:06 AM

A really great binoculars, which stand out from the crowd :)

http://www.amazon.co...B0021X2WQY/r...

#17 rydberg

rydberg

    Viking 1

  • *****
  • Posts: 911
  • Joined: 25 Feb 2004
  • Loc: Richmond, KY, USA

Posted 25 January 2013 - 08:46 AM

I believe these are better, optically, than the 20-144x70 zoom binos that started it all. A few drinks from the left side (Vodka) and magically they will self collimate... :silly:

#18 edwincjones

edwincjones

    Close Enough

  • *****
  • Posts: 8700
  • Joined: 10 Apr 2004

Posted 25 January 2013 - 09:00 AM

I believe these are better, optically, than the 20-144x70 zoom binos that started it all. A few drinks from the left side (Vodka) and magically they will self collimate... :silly:


so
the other posters are just not consuming enough alcohol to appreciate the magical zooms :question:

edj

#19 edwincjones

edwincjones

    Close Enough

  • *****
  • Posts: 8700
  • Joined: 10 Apr 2004

Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:14 PM

binoculars no longer on AM

ok CN members-fess up

who won them?

edj

#20 rushintuit

rushintuit

    Ranger 4

  • -----
  • Posts: 395
  • Joined: 01 Apr 2006
  • Loc: Farpoint Observatory

Posted 27 January 2013 - 06:30 AM

I have the 1x2 litre model.

#21 CuriousOne

CuriousOne

    Explorer 1

  • -----
  • Posts: 54
  • Joined: 22 Jan 2013

Posted 28 January 2013 - 10:56 AM

back to black.

Why so huge price difference? $99 and $399 ?

#22 Andresin150

Andresin150

    Apollo

  • *****
  • Posts: 1495
  • Joined: 14 Aug 2007
  • Loc: Bogotá - La Calera / Colombia

Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:32 AM

With the known quality of a binocular with that specs, probably the price differences obey to a marketing strategy of the vendors...
If someone is naive enough to think a binocular with that specs is a good one, probably that same person may think that the more expensive one is actually better.... so that strategy will atract both people looking for the best of what they don't know a clue of and with money to spend or for the cheaper, people that thinks that at $99 they are getting a bargain...

#23 Mr. Bill

Mr. Bill

    Fly Me to the Moon

  • *****
  • Posts: 6429
  • Joined: 09 Feb 2005
  • Loc: Northeastern Cal

Posted 28 January 2013 - 12:12 PM

I came by my curmudgeonosity honestly over a heartbreakingly long period.

Cheers,

BillC


A cynic is usually a frustrated idealist....

:grin:

#24 Photobud

Photobud

    Vostok 1

  • -----
  • Posts: 114
  • Joined: 07 Jan 2013

Posted 28 January 2013 - 12:26 PM

Pardon the noob. What is "AM"?

#25 Erix

Erix

    Toad Lily

  • *****
  • Administrators
  • Posts: 25813
  • Joined: 25 Dec 2004
  • Loc: Texas, USA

Posted 28 January 2013 - 12:34 PM

Astromart






Cloudy Nights LLC
Cloudy Nights Sponsor: Astronomics