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#26 csrlice12

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 03:48 PM

Maybe one of the versions of the TMB planetaries is going belly up...there are two versions being manufactured I believe....

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 04:26 PM

So when I look at the eyepiece pages at Astronomics, I see a couple of photos of the eyepieces, and they are different versions of the TMB PII. E.g.,
http://www.astronomi...etary-ii-eye...
Click on the small icons to see images of 2 different eyepieces (there are a lot of clones of TMBs out there).

So which version/clone is Astronomics selling? :question:

If some of you are trying to complete your TMB PII collection, your new eyepieces may not match.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 04:29 PM

So when I look at the eyepiece pages at Astronomics, I see a couple of photos of the eyepieces, and they are different versions of the TMB PII. E.g.,
http://www.astronomi...etary-ii-eye...
Click on the small icons to see images of 2 different eyepieces (there are a lot of clones of TMBs out there).

So which version/clone is Astronomics selling? :question:

If some of you are trying to complete your TMB PII collection, your new eyepieces may not match.


Thats a 9mm and, most likely, a 7mm eyepiece that are side by side. Is this what you are talking about? I'm sure nobody would get a clone ordering from Astronomics. This sort of thing usually happens on eBay.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 04:35 PM

Hm...so I can get 2 shipped for $89, or add a 3rd for essentially $30 more (and get free shipping).

Meh, gonna stick with 2 I guess! :p

Edit: On second thought...why not just get the 9mm, since I can barlow it to 4.5? The 5mm barlowed would probably not offer me anything, with my scope and in my light polluted environment. Am I correct on this?

Editx2: Screw it, got both 5mm and 9mm; can always sell the 5 if it doesn't work out.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 04:42 PM

I'm not good at this, but somewheres I read that the guy who originally designed the TMB Planetary (Mr. Beck??), licensed out his design to a certain mfg. Apparently, there was another individual (Mr. Burgess??) involved who worked/partnered with Mr. Beck. After Mr. Beck's death, Mr. Burgess started producing the eyepieces too. Mr. Becks original version (I believe) had the TMB Planetary size numbers inside a big diamond shape, Mr. Burgess's version only had the number with no diamond. Both versions apparently work well, with the Beck versions being a bit better (due to coatings??). Not certain about the names, and exact relationship between the two, but they did work on the eyepiece together originally.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:01 PM

Look at these 2 images (both are used on the Astronomics 9mm TMB PII page.... and similar confusion reigns on the 5, 6 and 7mm pages):

http://www.astronomi...large/16543.jpg

http://www.astronomi...ge/16543_1_.jpg

They are not the same eyepiece! So which one are Astronomics shipping?

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:04 PM

Mr. Becks original version (I believe) had the TMB Planetary size numbers inside a big diamond shape, Mr. Burgess's version only had the number with no diamond.

I don't recall a "diamond shape". Got any (links to) photos?

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:38 PM

Look at these 2 images (both are used on the Astronomics 9mm TMB PII page.... and similar confusion reigns on the 5, 6 and 7mm pages):

http://www.astronomi...large/16543.jpg

http://www.astronomi...ge/16543_1_.jpg

They are not the same eyepiece! So which one are Astronomics shipping?


You correct, they are not the same eyepiece. One is a 9mm and, just guessing, the other is a 7mm. Those are not both 9mm eyepieces.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 08:04 PM

Free shipping? I have ordered this morning an advertised TMB 5mm EP for $40 and the charge for shipping was $8.95. :question:


Yeah, my shipping was the same!!! Not sure what was meant by the "Free Shipping!!!!"...... :shrug:

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 08:25 PM

Look at these 2 images (both are used on the Astronomics 9mm TMB PII page.... and similar confusion reigns on the 5, 6 and 7mm pages):

http://www.astronomi...large/16543.jpg

http://www.astronomi...ge/16543_1_.jpg

They are not the same eyepiece! So which one are Astronomics shipping?


On the second image, one shows the eyecup up and one shows the eyecup down.....same eyepiece. The entire body of the eyepiece moves up and down away from the eye lens to provide different eye placements.

From the product description: "Each has a flexible rubber fold-down eyeguard on top of a twist-up eyecup that can be raised or lowered to match precisely the eye relief you find most comfortable"

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 01:40 AM

Look at these 2 images (both are used on the Astronomics 9mm TMB PII page.... and similar confusion reigns on the 5, 6 and 7mm pages):

http://www.astronomi...large/16543.jpg

http://www.astronomi...ge/16543_1_.jpg

They are not the same eyepiece! So which one are Astronomics shipping?


The second photo is a TMB Planetary II. My 6mm has its labels the same way. The eyecup twists upward to adjust eye position. The photo with the big 9 might be the old TMB Planetary series? Not sure what the differences are.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 09:39 AM

Look at these 2 images (both are used on the Astronomics 9mm TMB PII page.... and similar confusion reigns on the 5, 6 and 7mm pages):

http://www.astronomi...large/16543.jpg

http://www.astronomi...ge/16543_1_.jpg

They are not the same eyepiece! So which one are Astronomics shipping?


On the second image, one shows the eyecup up and one shows the eyecup down.....same eyepiece. The entire body of the eyepiece moves up and down away from the eye lens to provide different eye placements.

From the product description: "Each has a flexible rubber fold-down eyeguard on top of a twist-up eyecup that can be raised or lowered to match precisely the eye relief you find most comfortable"


I've had my 6 and 9mm for a couple months and didnt know the entire eyecup twisted up until now :lol:
I understand that the TMB Planetary eyepiece is easy to counterfeit and has been done so several times. However, if you buy your TMB eyepiece from a reputable dealer, such as Astronomics, you will not get a fake. These are found mostly on eBay and from dishonest individuals that troll the internet. My 6mm and 9mm look exactly the same (other than the 9 on one and the 6 on the other :grin: ) and I'm sure the 5mm will look the same when it arrives. I'm not at all worried about it looking different and my set not matching. Too many conspiracy theorist in this country nowadays :roflmao:

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 09:56 AM

I'm not good at this, but somewheres I read that the guy who originally designed the TMB Planetary (Mr. Beck??), licensed out his design to a certain mfg. Apparently, there was another individual (Mr. Burgess??) involved who worked/partnered with Mr. Beck. After Mr. Beck's death, Mr. Burgess started producing the eyepieces too. Mr. Becks original version (I believe) had the TMB Planetary size numbers inside a big diamond shape, Mr. Burgess's version only had the number with no diamond. Both versions apparently work well, with the Beck versions being a bit better (due to coatings??). Not certain about the names, and exact relationship between the two, but they did work on the eyepiece together originally.


From Astronomics website:

These TMB OpticalĀ® Planetary II eyepieces are the only eyepieces authorized by the estate of the late Thomas M. Back.



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Posted 26 January 2013 - 10:27 AM

WTH? I just got them like 2 weeks ago. Would have been nice to have been told that a 1/3 off sale was about to start...

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 10:36 AM

WTH? I just got them like 2 weeks ago. Would have been nice to have been told that a 1/3 off sale was about to start...


Thats usually how my luck goes :p

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 11:48 AM

Look at these 2 images (both are used on the Astronomics 9mm TMB PII page.... and similar confusion reigns on the 5, 6 and 7mm pages):

http://www.astronomi...large/16543.jpg

http://www.astronomi...ge/16543_1_.jpg

They are not the same eyepiece! So which one are Astronomics shipping?

I called Astronomics and they confirmed that the eyepiece(s) that will be shipped is the one with the big f/l in the smooth part of the rubber-knurled grip. I.e:
http://www.astronomi...large/16543.jpg

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 12:49 PM

Look at these 2 images (both are used on the Astronomics 9mm TMB PII page.... and similar confusion reigns on the 5, 6 and 7mm pages):

http://www.astronomi...large/16543.jpg

http://www.astronomi...ge/16543_1_.jpg

They are not the same eyepiece! So which one are Astronomics shipping?

I called Astronomics and they confirmed that the eyepiece(s) that will be shipped is the one with the big f/l in the smooth part of the rubber-knurled grip. I.e:
http://www.astronomi...large/16543.jpg


Good to know. I trust Astronomics to get us the correct eyepieces...little misleading with the image confusion though.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 05:43 PM

Has anyone's shipped yet?? I ordered yesterday morning before they opened and it still says "Not Yet Shipped." I'm a very impatient customer lol.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 02:03 AM

I got a shipment notice late friday afternoon. I would think yours would be out soon.

Gabe

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 10:18 AM

Yeah, as of Sun 1/27/13....it says "Not Yet Shipped!"....I only ordered on 1/24/13. ...standing by!.....

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 10:27 AM

Look at these 2 images (both are used on the Astronomics 9mm TMB PII page.... and similar confusion reigns on the 5, 6 and 7mm pages):

http://www.astronomi...large/16543.jpg

http://www.astronomi...ge/16543_1_.jpg

They are not the same eyepiece! So which one are Astronomics shipping?


These two links have three images look to me to be of the same eyepiece. The first link has two views:

* from the front with the eye guard screwed down;

* from the back with the eye guard extended.

The second link has a single image, from the back, with the eye guard down.

I am not surprised that Astronomics are dropping these eyepieces given confusion caused by clones which seem to be inferior to the Astronomics TMB ® product. There are now several competing eyepieces designs (like the Astro-Tech Paradigm), however they will be missed.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 10:38 AM

Chris...Again, they are NOT "dropping" the eyepieces. They are simply removing the eyepieces from the website as they sell out of them. Was told this is to keep their sanity because there will be no raincheck on the eyepieces at this price. They will get more TMB Planetarys later but they will sell for the normal price.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 04:40 PM

7mm are gone.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 06:13 PM

I got in early and got all 5... Since I often have more Han one scope set up at star parties this will be great!

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:53 AM

I have been looking for a Planetary EP for the last couple months. I am glad I waited, I have a spot in the EP case all set for the 9mm.






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