Slowly getting them all
Posted 26 January 2013 - 05:06 PM
Got half the set now: 30mm, 18mm, 11mm and 8.8mm. Now I just need the 24mm, 14mm, 6.7mm and 4.7mm.
But if I can swing it, I *might* go for the ES 14/100° instead! If I hadn't got this excellent offer, I'd ordered the 9mm 100° before the sale closes here in Europe. The main dealer has a sale until February 28th.
I have a hard time resisting them, but I also desperately need a servo steering kit for the tractor. Oh dear.
Life is full of temptations.
Posted 26 January 2013 - 05:26 PM
Posted 26 January 2013 - 05:29 PM
Posted 26 January 2013 - 07:02 PM
As you wrote, I didn't find the ergonomics that great, and had the experience that I had to put the eye inside the eyepiece to see the full field. Other people get along just great with the eyepiece and that is fine. Figuring out which eyepieces fit one is a bit of a journey. I seem to require a lot of eye relief for wide fields. I get along with my 6 mm BGO very well.
Since we are doing temptations, I must admit that another reason I sold it was that a set of Pentax XW 7 & 10 mm found the way to me. They are extremely sharp and have insanely good ergonomics. I like them a lot.
Your money went towards buying what was perhaps the last pair of Circle-T 12.5 mm orthos available in the world (retail that is), for the binoviewer that I don't have yet.
Posted 27 January 2013 - 02:44 AM
Thanks for the replies!
@Mark: Well, I don't *have* to have the whole set. It just seems like they want to find their way to me...! I'll most likely end up getting the ES 4.7mm 82 as well, as I sometimes use extremely high magnifications and would often like some more field then. I have found it a lot easier to use high magnifications when the apparent field is large and the eye position is relatively relaxed. Looking into a 4mm ortho @ 800x is not exactly comfortable...
@PJ: They ARE excellent! Amazingly sharp and with ZERO glare and reflections.
@MRNUTTY: Well, they still make them, so...
@HTJ: Oohh! Pentax it is now! Not bad, not bad. I do have a pair of 12.5mm UO VT orthos for my binoviewer, but they are my second least used binoviewer pair. The least used is the 9mm pair. I've found that when binoviewing, eyepieces with great ergonomics and comfort are paramount. I now almost exclusively use my 25mm Zeiss microscope eyepieces and various correctors and barlows to get the magnification I want. I find this infinitely more comfortable than peeping through the small lenses of the 12.5mm orthos.
Posted 27 January 2013 - 08:52 AM
But if I can swing it, I *might* go for the ES 14/100° instead!.. Life is full of temptations.
The way to eliminate temptations is to yield to it.
100ES14mm & 82ES14mm-I
If you like the 82ES, you're gonna love the 100ES14mm.
Posted 27 January 2013 - 12:29 PM
Posted 27 January 2013 - 01:29 PM
You and I must be the only ones that want ES to come out with a line of Plossls. When I posed that possibility on the forums, I think everybody that responded said they had no interest. I, on the other hand, have my fingers crossed they will.
Posted 27 January 2013 - 01:39 PM
Posted 27 January 2013 - 02:11 PM
Hopefully the king-EP's performance isn't based purely on brand-power The Brandon and Pentax clearly have superior contrast and clarity, so know I can observe without a brand filter getting in the way. I would definately buy a set of highend narrow fields to complement my Brandon's and Siebert's.
Posted 27 January 2013 - 02:31 PM
When you look at the Moon with them, you have an unreal feeling of looking through a large hole (the field stops are focusable, so you can make them *extremely* sharp, which makes them appear huge and floating at distance in front of you, like a large window), a hole you can run up to and fall out of and fall into orbit around the Moon.
If ES could make a line of special binoviewer-prepared eyepieces such as these, then they would have something *truly* special. Cost would be an issue, however, as making eyepieces with this kind of attention to details is quite expensive. Some of the top-of-the-line Zeiss microscope eyepieces run at $2000 per eyepiece... I am not sure how much mine where when new from Zeiss, since I got them used, but they are made for ultra-expensive long-distance surgical microscopes...
Posted 27 January 2013 - 02:38 PM
ES is supposedly coming out with a binoviewer soon.....wouldn't it be nice if they did exactly like what you are suggesting....a special line of binoviewer eyepieces with an emphasis on low scatter, ect.
Posted 28 January 2013 - 08:28 AM
Now I just need some clear skies...
Posted 28 January 2013 - 08:36 PM
Posted 29 January 2013 - 03:23 AM
I was looking out my glass door, so the image quality wasn't the best, thus the problems with determining the sharness. But I could determine how comfortable it was and it passed with flying colors. Way more comfortable than my 9mm UO ortho and somewhat better than my 10mm GSO Superview.
I also experimented with my 2x barlow both the 11mm and the 8.8mm barlow extremely well. High power views were amazingly comfortable! This will be a boon to my deep-sky observing. Even at 192x (8.8mm+2x barlow on a 840mm focal length scope), I could get almost the entire Moon into the field! At this magnification I have only a few arcminutes less true field than I do with my 9mm UO at 93x! Going back to the 9mm UO was NOT comfortable at all! The views lost all context and it felt incredibly cramped. Especially if I tried the 9mm UO+barlow combination.
Don Pensack has said something along the lines that using modern widefield eyepieces allow you to see more, because they allow you to retain context of the object in its surrounding field, while allowing you to observe at much higher magnifications, thus darkening the background sky and magnifying small objects into visibility. I now believe this is totally true and while I have never been afraid to use high magnifications, doing so has just become tremendously much easier and enjoyable for me. I am already thinking of many objects that I want to revisit with much higher magnifications.
Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:42 AM
Indeed, what he stated is true. That is why I migrated to these eyepiece in favor of the Plossls, TMB Planetary, and Orion Stratuses I have been using for years. Finding faint objects with the endemic light pollution and milky skies can be very challenging, and anything that helps me minimize the effects of murky, lit up skies is a blessing.