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#1 CounterWeight

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 01:06 PM

or any of the others(unsure here)... I don't think I would qualify.

ridiculous that a requirement would be (and we are talking general public???
"some experience in observing with large (i.e. >3-m) telescopes; "

I WISH!

Community Access to the 6.5-m Telescope of the MMT Observatory

I was researching something else and came upon it, so am just curious.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 02:26 PM

I'm thinking they won't be responding to people who want to see the star they "own" from the star registry... :question:

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:04 PM

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:12 PM

I checked out the link. This is really cool. Perhaps a forum should be opened where people can kick around ideas for a project to propose, kind of like using CN to crowd source citizen science research ideas. There could be a Nobel prize lurking here! ;)

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:34 PM

On this link there appear to be others, need to look near the bottom of the web page...

And here yet another?

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:58 AM

I checked out the link. This is really cool. Perhaps a forum should be opened where people can kick around ideas for a project to propose, kind of like using CN to crowd source citizen science research ideas. There could be a Nobel prize lurking here! ;)

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Yes, we should open a forum somewhere. One about science and astronomy. Where could we find something like that? :question:

I know I've seen one of those around here somewhere... :watching:

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Seriously, if you guys have some ideas, let's kick them around. It would be totally cool if a CN proposal was accepted. Or even if you just want some extra critical eyes to look over your personal proposal, I think a number of us here would be happy to help.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 10:58 AM

Let's keep it civil, Jarad. I see no forum specifically for discussing citizen science projects. Is that really such a ridiculous thing to dedicate a forum to?

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 11:57 AM

Like I said, we can discuss those ideas here. If the number of posts overwhelms us in SASE, then we can open a separate forum.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:51 PM

No need for the sarcasm. That's all you had to say.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 01:35 PM

Get spectra of that strange double-galaxy to the lower left of M104 - see any big picture of it and look in the lower left corner for two tiny identical face-on spirals side by side, touching each other - these have a huge infrared signature and are mostly unstudied.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 01:54 PM

Ira -
I wasn't trying for sarcasm, I was trying for playfulness. The graemlins were intended to convey that, but it's always tough with internet posts where you lose facial cues, tone of voice, etc. No offense was intended.

DeSitter - let's run with that idea and see where it leads. Can we flesh it out a bit? Are we looking for specific absorption lines? How bright are these two galaxies? How much observing time will we need to get adequate spectra?

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 03:17 PM

Anyone here have experience writing grant proposals who wants to help with this?

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 03:18 PM

Ira -
I wasn't trying for sarcasm, I was trying for playfulness. The graemlins were intended to convey that, but it's always tough with internet posts where you lose facial cues, tone of voice, etc. No offense was intended.

DeSitter - let's run with that idea and see where it leads. Can we flesh it out a bit? Are we looking for specific absorption lines? How bright are these two galaxies? How much observing time will we need to get adequate spectra?

Jarad


Sorry if I was overly sensitive.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 03:19 PM

If we are seriously going to pursue this it should have a fresh start under its own appropriate subject line. Sounds exciting!

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 05:19 PM

I don't believe this is meant for any public person to apply, but I see no harm in checking. I am fairly certain they mean professionals not associated with the UofA or HSCA, as they own the telescope.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 01:16 AM

I think if we came up with anything novel and interesting, it may get some traction, like some application of lattice theory or signal theory in galaxy morphology interactions. Applying Ramanajuns edit(meant Theta or mock theta?) functions to mass density distributions and asymptotes over area, notably lobed planetary (nebula) aspect to suspected star type? I can think of many other topics, but the initial legwork is the scope and detectors and how to advantage that with the available detectors. Mathmanship always helps, you cant just say irregular or non-linear anymore.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:15 AM

"A comprehensive spectroscopic analysis of Lunar surface reflection in the 510 nm wavelengths in order to detect any evidence of temperature-mediated coagulation of fermented fatty acids specific to dairy products"

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 12:10 PM

I wasn't trying for sarcasm, I was trying for playfulness.


Yep, that gets me in trouble all the time. :p

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 12:13 PM

"A comprehensive spectroscopic analysis of Lunar surface reflection in the 510 nm wavelengths in order to detect any evidence of temperature-mediated coagulation of fermented fatty acids specific to dairy products"


They might think we are trying to "milk it"? ;)

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 01:16 PM

Ira -
I wasn't trying for sarcasm, I was trying for playfulness. The graemlins were intended to convey that, but it's always tough with internet posts where you lose facial cues, tone of voice, etc. No offense was intended.

DeSitter - let's run with that idea and see where it leads. Can we flesh it out a bit? Are we looking for specific absorption lines? How bright are these two galaxies? How much observing time will we need to get adequate spectra?

Jarad


They seem quite bright to my eyes - at least the same surface brightness as M104 itself. I would look for spectra characteristic of AGN and quasars, e.g. see here

http://cas.sdss.org/...lenges/quasars/

I suspect very high redshift. I'll try to pull some SIMBAD information for it. I think it has been at least cataloged.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 01:21 PM

They are visible here, along the bottom edge about 1/4 the distance from left to right side. There is another dim red companion in the same area, about the same size.

http://imgsrc.hubble...-28-a-print.jpg

The region of M104 is teeming with odd looking objects.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 01:34 PM

You can see it here, near the upper right corner of the image on the right - dim blue double galaxy..

%202-21]http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/simbad/sim-id?Ident=[BAZ97]%202-21

We need to get accurate coordinates for it.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 01:57 PM

Near as I can make out

12:40:07.28 -11:40:01.0

The nearest object in Aladdin is this star:

+Star+2483&NbIdent=1]http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/simbad/sim-id?Ident=[RZ20...

I cannot find a catalog entry for the galaxy.

The galaxy is very prominent in UV. Very strange that it is not cataloged. That's what all this is for, right? Do something undone?

-drl

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 09:07 PM

I wasn't trying for sarcasm, I was trying for playfulness.


Yep, that gets me in trouble all the time. :p


I just go ahead and stick with sarcasm, that way it's more likely to get interpreted as playfulness.

Nah -- that doesn't work either.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 09:08 PM

Near as I can make out

12:40:07.28 -11:40:01.0

The nearest object in Aladdin is this star:

+Star+2483&NbIdent=1]http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/simbad/sim-id?Ident=[RZ20...

I cannot find a catalog entry for the galaxy.

The galaxy is very prominent in UV. Very strange that it is not cataloged. That's what all this is for, right? Do something undone?

-drl


I agree that's an interesting pair.






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