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#26 turk123

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 04:12 PM

Well, the truck didn't show up today. I'm off to florida on Sunday. If it is not in by then I will call when I get back. I'm hoping they did not have a shield in stock. Probably never had one in stock! I have not by any means given up.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 04:54 PM

Good for you! Take some before and after when you get a chance.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 08:55 PM

Good for you! Take some before and after when you get a chance.


Yep, Here is the before:

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 09:31 AM

Wheres the after?

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 05:32 PM

Wow! That thing's shining in every window.
Good on you for talking to them.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 07:39 PM

Wheres the after?


Well, after talking to the service truck driver, he said he would be back with a shield. It has been two weeks and he has not shown.

I just emailed First Energy just now and also sent them the picture.

Cross your fingers!

(twenty two light disabler leaning against the wall) :shocked:

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 09:41 AM

Got a new email back from First Energy. They say they are coming out within 3 days. They gave me a new work order number so here's hoping.

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 11:29 AM

Here's hoping that someone knows what to do this time.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 08:43 AM

Here's hoping that someone knows what to do this time.


I guess it is too much to ask for what you want. I heard a noise out front at about 9:30 pm last night. It was the service truck! He hopped out of the truck, looked at the pole number, hopped back in, and left. :bawling:

What? Did that just happen again? I sent off another email to first energy and ask that a supervisor get involved. I asked them if it is regular policy to send trucks out on calls with no orders, no paperwork, and just assuming a light is out.

They responded with a supervisors name and said she would call me on Monday. The story continues.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 09:30 PM

Well, the supervisor called me and said the truck driver said the streetlight is the same as the other one on the street. I ask her when it was up to the truck driver to determine the light pollution policy of your company. She was a bit belligerent but finally agreed to talk to the service department about a shield. I don't have much hope. I even offered to pay for the shield. She said she didn't have a procedure for that.

They really don't care.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 10:11 AM

I used to have a next door neighbor who had a sewing room facing my back yard, she was older and the lights were so bright to help her see we used to call them her Landing Lights.. I asked them to put on a shade to pull but they said they liked to look out the window and didn't want to bother.
They said they would turn off the lights if I asked..
They did.. for about an hour .. She also played an Organ
in the same room.. same lights..
Nothing like observing in glare, to Lawrence Welk..
Father time finally resolved my issue.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 02:45 PM

I just got a call from a regional manager from First Energy. We talked a bit and I found out I worked with him before on a land project. He said they do not have any shields at all. He did offer to move it though. Here's the catch; I have to get permission from city council for the new location.

I called our mayor and he listened to my plea. He thinks it is a reasonable request and will visit my site tonight to see what it looks like. He said I should talk to my neighbors to see if the move would be OK with them, and also suggested, I ask them if they would object to removing it altogether. That sounds encouraging! Anyone have any statistics that say "Lit streets are a bigger target for crime"? I'm hoping this all works out. Guess it is up to my neighbors!

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 05:01 PM

Oh yes...
How many bureaucrats does it take to change a light bulb????

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 07:16 PM

Oh yes...
How many bureaucrats does it take to change a light bulb????


That is funny! I can use that if I have to go to city council for final approval! :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 07:21 PM

Frankly, they really don't need a specific shield. When I had a yardlight, the power company simply spray-painted it, to lower the glare. Would be much less expensive than the cost of moving it; and one neighbor objecting, will bring the move to a halt.

Perhaps suggest the painting to them.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 12:21 AM

also read of workers making a shield out of aluminum foil and sticking that inside the glass of the fixture.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 07:05 AM

GE makes a shield that fits INSIDE the glass and restricts the angle of the light similar to the suggestions posted. If you do a search on streetlight shield you find lots of options available.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 08:19 AM

I thought about that with the foil, makes sense I would think?

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:08 PM

I'm not sold on the foil idea. If something goes wrong then there will be one large flash and a few fire fighters arriving.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:28 PM

I wouldn't be so worried about that happening. My other hobby is indoor gardening using bulbs much hotter than an LPS that have aluminum reflectors within two inches of the bulb without any problems(UL rated even). Some streetlamps even use plastic shielding around the bulb(often the glass on the bottom is plastic. LPS bulbs also have a high surface area making hot spots less likely. They are also the most efficient kind of bulb(at least before leds and magnetic induction technology) and that means less loss of electricity in the form of heat compared to even common household florescents. Also the wattage of streetlamps is usually 250 watts(not much) and sometimes 150w.

I welcome other opinions though.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:35 PM

oh yeah, btw, aluminum has a burning temperature of over 4000 Celcius. And that is elemental Al. In the real world, Al forms an oxidized coating that is even more resistant(alumina). The alumina is also the product of burning aluminum. Curiously enough, elemental aluminum is an ingredient in rocket fuel even though at normal temperatures Al is considered noncombustable(MSDS).

Now I have seen it burn, but generally that is when oil drips/spills off pans and this while under heat from a lit unsupervised burner will light up. So in other words, even though it is generally safe, not a good idea to line your trays under your burners with aluminum foil.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 03:49 PM

I was thinking, kind of tongue in cheek, about somebody in a bucket truck tearing off a piece of al. foil and fashioning a shield, not realizing it was too close to the electrical contacts until the lights came on.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 08:57 PM

gotcha ;)






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