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Posted 10 March 2013 - 03:10 PM

Well, since the other begging began already.... ;) .....any chance you'll ever make it available outside of Google Play so that it can be purchased for use on the Kindle Fire?


you can get it running on the fire, what you have to do is root it and flash a normal android rom onto it then it will act like any other android tablet free from amazon's constraints. when you consider that amazon has a kindle app for android devices you also do not loose that functionality but you will loose the highly integrated parts the fire has so there may be down sides to this that i am not aware of.

the other even easier thing to do is just pick up a used 8 gb nexus 7 tablet, they can be had for 100-150 dollars or a new 16 gb one for 200 and will probably make you want to stop using your kindle fire anyways because its so much better of a device.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 02:24 AM

Well, I neither want to root my Fire nor stop using it. I have a substantial investment in the Fire and other apps that work just fine on it. "Change what you use" or "spend yet more money on something else" has never been my preferred way to solve a problem. But thanks for the advice anyway. :smirk:

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 12:56 PM

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I am going to purchase a Meade LX850 in July. I would love to run SkySafari pro with Skyfi on an Android tablet. Do you think there is any any way to do this in the near future?

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 01:11 PM

Probably not in the near future. We may be able to support WiFi Direct (which Android does support) in SkyFi, but I think it will take a hardware change. The ROM that hold the firmware is getting pretty full. Not sure if we can squeeze that in.

Your best bet for now is to go with Bluetooth using the Roving Networks RN-270 adapter. It has been a great performer.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 01:33 PM

Probably not in the near future. We may be able to support WiFi Direct (which Android does support) in SkyFi, but I think it will take a hardware change. The ROM that hold the firmware is getting pretty full. Not sure if we can squeeze that in.

Your best bet for now is to go with Bluetooth using the Roving Networks RN-270 adapter. It has been a great performer.


OK, will try that solution but as far as the LX850 being compatible all else should work or will that now be a function of the RN-270 adapter?

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 02:27 PM

Well, assuming Meade didn't change the basic AutoStar protocol, it should just work. We haven't heard of anyone complain that it there are problems.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 11:02 AM

Having used Sky Safari Pro on my iPad I'd be more than happy to pay again for a Windows version, especially if it could load view session plans between versions.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 11:25 AM

No plans for a Windows version. Sorry.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 02:42 PM

No plans for a Windows version. Sorry.


At one time there were no plans for a Android version... :help:

At one time there were no plans for a Windows version of Starry Nights...

Both those came to pass, in part due to the interest expressed by the amateur community.

Now the Windows version of Sky Safari requires more tact. I figure next winter when the S.F. Bay Area is cold and rainy, I will invite Bill and Tim down to visit our place in the Laguna mountains. I figure I can hold them hostage until they see the wisdom of a Windows version.... :)

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 03:06 PM

It's been MY EXPERIENCE that kidnapping and extortion work better if you don't forewarn the intended... ;)

I have Sky Safari working fair in windows using the Bluestacks app that I posted either here or on another thread. I'm just not sure to weather it will control a scope as I have a dob and just use it really for minute planning and field charting.

I'm working on getting my install instructions a tad smoother for the mere muggle minded and the Android uninitiated. I should have it all together by the weekend.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 03:56 PM

A Linux version would be nice; especially if it's compiled for x86 and capable of running in a Virtualbox, or under QEMM. However, by the time I have a Smartphone/Pad capable of running Android; I'll already have Android running in a VM, probably with ARM emulation to compile my own software. (My current OS is Debian based - subject to change, but other than Windows.) Hence, in my case, a Linux version of Sky Safari would probably be moot. However, I will be purchasing an Android version of Sky Safari... eventually. YMWV :kitty:

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 06:35 PM

It's been MY EXPERIENCE that kidnapping and extortion work better if you don't forewarn the intended... ;)

I have Sky Safari working fair in windows using the Bluestacks app that I posted either here or on another thread. I'm just not sure to weather it will control a scope as I have a dob and just use it really for minute planning and field charting.

I'm working on getting my install instructions a tad smoother for the mere muggle minded and the Android uninitiated. I should have it all together by the weekend.


Sean:

That sounds exciting... I have no need for scope control..

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 07:23 PM

It's been MY EXPERIENCE that kidnapping and extortion work better if you don't forewarn the intended... ;)

I have Sky Safari working fair in windows using the Bluestacks app that I posted either here or on another thread. I'm just not sure to weather it will control a scope as I have a dob and just use it really for minute planning and field charting.

I'm working on getting my install instructions a tad smoother for the mere muggle minded and the Android uninitiated. I should have it all together by the weekend.


Sean:

So I downloaded BlueStacks and Sky Safari Plus but it want's to have a wifi connection to download the additional data files... Otherwise it runs and looks promising.

I guess I could try it on my laptop which does have Wifi.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 10:20 PM

Well, since the other begging began already.... ;) .....any chance you'll ever make it available outside of Google Play so that it can be purchased for use on the Kindle Fire?


It may be time for us to revisit this. Last year when we looked into it, we didn't like the license terms Amazon imposed on the developers. It basically gave them free rein to set the price of your product and limited how you could price it on other (competing) platforms. I know there was a fair amount of developer outcry over this. Perhaps they have changed by now. I'll add it to my to "do list" to look into.


Don't s'pose this has come up yet on the 'to do' list.... :grin:

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 05:35 PM

Jon:
Even with a WIFI connection it still won't download the data files.. The bluestacks program treats ur hard drive as a variable sized Sd card.. The sky safari data package is to big to download from directly within the bluestacks program. You have to manually download it from the southern stars site, put it in one of the public folder's on your system that the bluestacks app recognizes and then use a file manager within the bluestacks app to move it to where it needs to be for sky safari to find it.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 05:01 PM

Jon:
Even with a WIFI connection it still won't download the data files.. The bluestacks program treats ur hard drive as a variable sized Sd card.. The sky safari data package is to big to download from directly within the bluestacks program. You have to manually download it from the southern stars site, put it in one of the public folder's on your system that the bluestacks app recognizes and then use a file manager within the bluestacks app to move it to where it needs to be for sky safari to find it.


Sean:

Is there any way to take the data file from my Tablet or phone and simply transfer it?

By the way, I hope Bill and Tim are OK with running an Android version of Sky Safari on my PC. ??

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 05:36 PM

Jon,

You can grab the data file from your tablet and transfer it. The location where it needs to live is described here:

http://www.southerns...droid/data.html

I assume you are still using the Google Play store and its licensing mechanism when using BlueStacks? If so then I guess this is allowed by the Google Play license. If you are circumventing this somehow then that would be a violation.

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 06:23 AM

Jon,
You can pull the files off your android device but it's a bigger hassle than downloading the files and moving them around. I tried this a few times and never could quite seem to get ALL the files in the needed folders. Every time I tried the size of the folder never came out the same. I'm not sure but it seems as if some of them are hidden.

Bill,
Yes the Bluse stacks program is Play certified and DOES check for the proper licensing. A fact that I was going to emphasize in my write up. That to use skysafari in the program you had to have a valid licensed product or be willing to purchase one within the emulator itself. This is NOT a work around to get your wonderful product for free. I actually found a couple Android emulators for windows but Bluestacks was the only one that allowed access to the Play Store. The others only has app access through 3rd party markets, predominantly the Amazon Store.

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 06:55 AM

Jon,

You can grab the data file from your tablet and transfer it. The location where it needs to live is described here:

http://www.southerns...droid/data.html

I assume you are still using the Google Play store and its licensing mechanism when using BlueStacks? If so then I guess this is allowed by the Google Play license. If you are circumventing this somehow then that would be a violation.


Bill:

Thanks. I will see if I can get it up and running when I have time.

I am definitely running it off my Android license within the Playstore, no question about that. I was more interested in your take as to whether you were OK with it. Seems like you are.

Jon






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