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#1 turk123

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 01:34 PM

When I start out the evening I always start by grabbing this "beer can" eyepiece. It's a 40mm 2" wide field eyepiece I believe from the 70's. Was this neagler's first design? Televue japan

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:02 PM

No, no. The Wide Fields came much later, in 1983. They were later replaced by the Panoptics.

Here's a primer on TeleVue history: http://www.company7....evue/telal.html


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Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:12 PM

Blimey thats a big dude. I usually start out with this one and have often wondered the same

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:17 PM

Great article Thomas. Looks like this eyepiece had a famous beginning. If you ever see one I would recommend you pick one up. Great "heavy" piece of glass. My wife's favorite eyepiece because of the easy eye relief. Only one problem, when I reach for it in the dark, sometimes I come up with a miller lite. Maybe that's not so much of a problem.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:23 PM

Only one problem, when I reach for it in the dark, sometimes I come up with a miller lite. Maybe that's not so much of a problem.


Depending on the outdoor temperature, grabbin' a can o' cold instead of an eyepiece might not actually be a problem. :cool:

Really cool old eyepiece. Hang on to it, I know I would. Those eyepieces are very rare on this side of the pond.


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Posted 16 February 2013 - 03:49 PM

TV 26mm NJ rocks. Meade RGO 10.5 rocks. My Unbranded 12.5 Ortho I picked up with a scope is superb.
TV 26 circle NJis a REALLY good EP. Heck, the 32, 26, 21 and 17 are the ones I use all the time. The Early TV plossls are very good.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 05:26 PM

Love em, the only ep's I still use, a complete set of circle NJ's from 1982, perform well in any scope I've used them in, dobs, refractors, SCT's and maks.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 07:15 PM

Still like to get a 13mm and 10.5 circle NJ. Never liked the 7.4 as much as the others. ER is too small on these compared to a good ortho. My 7mm RGO was a slightly better EP, stupidly sold that 7mm RGO to buy a Vixen LV. Other than ER that was a step down. Not that the LV was bad, but contrast was not like the TV or RGO's

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 08:09 PM

'Recently acquired a nice 10.4 circle NJ smoothie - in its original box - with the purchase of a 30 year-old Astroscan. This older design has a more pronounced volcano top than the 10.5 TV Plossl.

Since it duplicates some of my existing focal lengths, I'm unsure at this point if I'm going to keep it...

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 08:28 PM

I love my beer can 13mm Nagler of 1980's vintage. Weighs in at several pounds but it's an awesome eyepiece. Even works in my 10 inch Zhumell Dob without putting it out of balance. Favorite for my f/5 Genesis. When I bought it big DOB's were comeing into vogue. I often wondered who might be the first person killed by someone dropping a brute like this from atop a ladder. Thankfully I've never heard of such a thing. Bill

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 08:47 PM

I keep going back to this old Tuthill 30mm Plossl that I bought in 1987.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:06 PM

22mm Panoptic.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:11 PM

Only one problem, when I reach for it in the dark, sometimes I come up with a miller lite.


I understand. I seem to always grab by mistake the Jameson. :grin:

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:14 PM

I like my 40mm Vernonscope erfle. What a hunk of glass...

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 09:23 PM

Only one problem, when I reach for it in the dark, sometimes I come up with a miller lite.


I understand. I seem to always grab by mistake the Jameson. :grin:


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Posted 17 February 2013 - 11:06 PM

Wow, favorite old eyepiece and Roger Tuthill in the same thread, inspires me to post this.
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That's Roger on the left, I'm the short kid, admiring the finder on that 12" Newt. It used what became my favorite wide angle monster, the classic 37mm giant Erfle that was used on the Army's M71D straight telescope. The finder's optical axis crossed the main tube, with a mirror on the other side.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 11:11 PM

I have several favorites but my least favorite old eyepiece is a Coulter Ronchi :lol: Even scratched and dirty .965" SR 4mms put it to shame :grin:

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 07:33 AM

My favorite old eyepiece would be my 16mm Goloc. I got it with my 8" Cave Refl many years ago.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:29 AM

Tuthill 35mm and Tuthill 30mm ( pre-Ultima prototype ) exceptional by itself, absolutely remarkable when barlowed. They remain at the top after going up against a vast array of highly touted, now gone,expensive eyepieces.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:45 AM

great thread, Despite all the fancy new ones I have, I still love my Panoptic 22, TV NJ widefield 19mm, and my Meade smoothie 14mm series 4000 UWA. When I do grab n Go I use my old RKE eyepieces with my refractors. bob

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:46 AM

MIne is a 7mm Nagler. My favorite planetary eyepiece and the one that gets the most focuser time.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 06:34 AM

I still have, and use, my 7mm Nagler but for planetary observing I like the 4.8 Nagler.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 07:32 AM

I don't have the 4.8mm yet but I will get one someday. I suspect it will become my new favourite planetary. I often screw my old meade telenegative 2x barlow lens onto the threads of the 7mm Nagler. I guess that makes it close to the 4.8mm then .

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 08:27 AM

4.8 Nagler is nice, but a UO ortho is a little sharper. Doesn't have the wide field though. There have been quite a few 4.8 naglers for sale lately, been tempted myself, they are oly around $100. used. Most of my scopes are F10 to F15 In a 2000mm FL scope that's over 400x. too much for all but the very best seeing. I find 6-7mm to be the sweet spot.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 08:50 AM

It is interesting that the older TeleVue eyepieces are now Classics. I think of them as modern eyepieces, just not the latest versions.

My first string eyepiece case includes 20mm, 16mm, 12mm type 2 Naglers and 7mm and 4.8mm type 1's. Add 3.5mm and 9mm type 6 and a 31mm and it just about has all bases covered.

My lightweight eyepiece case which gets about 50% of the eyepiece time includes 32mm, 24mm and 15mm TV Widefields. These are classics because the are old and the Panoptics represent a significant improvement. Of these, the 24mm was my.first really good eyepiece but the 32 mm is my favorite.

I actually prefer it over the 35mm Panoptic. The Pan definitely provides the better view but the WF just has what I call "the big easy view.". When I got the 35mm Pan, I gave my 32mm WF away but got to missing it so I bought another one.

Otherwise, true classics in age and design, my 20mm Celestron Erfles, and my set of Meade series 2 Orthos with the 40mm EWF MA providing the widest field.

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