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#1 TmaninTn

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:22 AM

Yes, it's time. Due to a cosmic alignment of both funds available for new gear and a good price on a used set up, I'm coming in to the light and...........

.......upgrading from the 6 to 8. Dun Dun DUNNNNNNNNN.

Yes, I know, I've been a staunch defender of the 6, as she has treated me so well over the last two years. And for the price I would still argue that $799 for the 6SE is one of the best "aperture+mount+mirror per dollar" deals out there. But after reading more and more of the posts here it came down to save up for a new EQ mount or get the 8. I love the ease at which the Alt-az mount sets up, and I've used it all over the place in questionable locations without fail so I'm not ready to get a GEM yet. Seeing shot after shot of the 8 just besting the 6 in the AP category even with the Alt-Az, never mind the countless confessions of ex-6 owners who never looked back I it knew it was time. And so it is done. The 8 comes to ME.

And I have you people to blame/thank for it. And I do thank you all very much for the help. Those of you in the Tennessee Valley, expect some heavy rain over the next couple weeks, sorry-my bad.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 02:41 AM

Another victim of GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome). :grin:

Congratulations. A C8 is a nice step up from a C6. You will have a lot of fun with it.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 03:32 AM

Just wait until the urge to go even larger hits. I had my 8SE for less than a year before I jumped over to a NS11GPS. Of course being able to get the NS11GPS for a steal ($650, yes $650) didn't hurt either.

C8 is a very nice form factor with great optics. Enjoy the new purchase. Here's wishing you many dark and cloudless nights.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:03 AM

Hi Tim,

Congratulations on your new acquistion ! :bow::bow: Sorry if I, among others, was persuasively to blame, :bigblush: but put it this way, you WILL notice the difference ! :waytogo:

But you seem to taking the same approach as I did. I bought my Nexstar 8i back at the beginning of '06 and then acquired my Shywatcher HEQ5 GEM in '08 after I'd exhausted most of what I could achieve photographically from the Alt.Az. mount. I now have a permanent set-up with the 8" OTA on the GEM, but I still miss the convenience of the ol' Alt./Az. !

Have a lot of fun ! (When those skies clear of course) ! :4

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 07:22 AM

Hi Tim:

Congrats! You'll love it! :waytogo:

I went through a similar transition in the other direction when I got the 5SE. I tried a number of different scopes to fill the role of a travel scope and couldn't find one that I really liked. In the end I realized that I liked everything about the 8SE except the size so I just got a smaller one! (of course I kept the 8 too!) These scopes really do hit the sweet spot in terms of aperture and usability per dollar.

-Dan

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 07:48 AM

Congrats!! I love my 8SE and I, too, blame these guys for talking me into getting the 8SE. :D I have NO REGRETS!!! I love it. And you will love it too..

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 08:26 AM

Despite who's to blame Tim, and I'll take my share of it, I'm afraid it don't end there. You'll enjoy the 8se (congratulations) that's for sure, but the "itch" will return. BEWARE.

Regards. Peter.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 08:31 AM

Congratulations Tim! I have realized that this hobby isn't much different than my kids obsession with LEGOS. They pour over the new catalog each quarter and debate the merits of each kit. Sounds familiar!

Best,

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 09:29 AM

It's a sickness with no cure. I've already got my eye on 12-15 inch dobs. My club is loaded with 18+ inch Zambuto guys.....

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:34 PM

It's a sickness with no cure. I've already got my eye on 12-15 inch dobs. My club is loaded with 18+ inch Zambuto guys.....


Valley Forge...Does a young ladygy that goes my 7 of Nine belong to that club.. Rachael is her real name and I have not seen her post in a long long time...last I heard she was running a Nexstar 11 GPS...and had gotten into AP...

Just curious because I spend a few hours on the phone with her helping her get into this hobby...

Sorry for the off topic comment... curiosity always gets the best of me...

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:36 PM

Tim,
Congratulations on the 8SE!

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 01:09 AM

Thanks for all the encouragement/bad influence guys, I'll post some pics of the new set up as soon as I get my delivery.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 06:57 AM

Thanks for all the encouragement/bad influence guys ...


Don't mention it. Spending other peoples' money is what we do best! :grin:

-Dan

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:39 AM

Aside from the balancing tips that Art spells out here so perfectly, is there any other advice anyone has to offer in terms of the 6 to 8 transition?

I'm already prepared to christen the new OTA properly, but what else?

Man. Can't wait to get the 8.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:29 AM

A weightlifting refresher course, Tim ? :rofl2:

Enjoy it to the full, my good friend ! :waytogo:

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 08:52 AM

I'm already prepared to christen the new OTA properly, but what else?


Just wondering about your wording, "new OTA". I was under the impression that you were buying a whole new 8SE.

Did you just buy the 8" OTA to put on your existing mount? If so, you'll have an issue with the plastic bezel surrounding the dovetail clamp. The curve on the face of that bezel is designed to match the OTA, so the curve for the 6" OTA is tighter than that for the 8" OTA. The 8" will not fit fully into the dovetail saddle with the 6" bezel in place.

There are solutions to this situation. You can remove the bezel completely since it is just cosmetic, but it does leave the mount looking a bit ugly. The other option is to use a Ron's Rail dovetail rail extension. This moves the OTA farther away from the dovetail seat so fitting the bezel is no longer an issue. It also gives you the benefit of more clearance at the base for a larger diagonal and other accessories, and provides more fore/aft adjustment for dealing with balancing issues.

Anyway, just wanted to mention this in case you're only replacing the OTA.

-Dan

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 02:17 PM

Thanks Dan! I knew I was forgetting something. To answer your question, yes, I am just getting a new OTA, not a whole new mount. Time to search the forum for the thread that explains this.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 03:14 PM

Hi Tim,

As an alterative to fittings Ron's Rail you can place quarter inch spacers under each end of the dovetail bar. This will allow the dovetail bar to go fully home into the clamp jaws without fouling the bezel.

Regards. Peter.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 03:46 PM

And thank you Peter. I've been looking at the variety of options available, but yours seems like the easiest to get started. I'll have to order to Ron's Rail set up. Do you know of a picture or thread with the spacers set up just so?

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:27 PM

Hi Tim,

Here's a links to all the options.

Click on the Eddie's or Dan's rail links.

You don't need to use the longer rail shown. You can shim the original in just the same way. I used plastic shims on mine.


http://www.cloudynig...d=nexstar&am...


Regards. Peter

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:04 PM

So I just got delivery of the new addition to the family, and just for laughs, here's the sky chart for the next few days-
Nashville Clear Sky Chart

HILARIOUS.

Here's something interesting though, and maybe I just have it attached wrong (although it's flush and sits well balanced), but I haven't needed either a spacer nor a new rail to attach it to my mount, which is from a 6SE. It lined up easily already, and from what I can tell the rails on each scope look the same.

The other thing is I can't believe how much BIGGER the 8 is than the 6. I know it's just two inches, but it just seems like it DWARFS the 6. Weird.


Can't wait to fire it up, I'll post my reactions once I get some clear skies. Thanks again everyone for the help!

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 04:19 AM

It may have the larger bezel fitted already Tim.

Good luck and enjoy your 8se.

Regards. Peter.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 07:26 AM

Hi Tim:

The rails on the two scopes are the same. And the 8 will fit into and attach to the 6 mount, but normally it will not seat fully because of the tighter curve on the face of the plastic bezel. Sight along the length of the rail where it goes through the dovetail clamp. See if the dovetail rail is fully bottomed-out in the clamp.

As Peter says, you may already have the larger bezel for the 8" on your mount. But if that were the case, the bezel would have looked like it didn't fit the curve of the 6 and there would have been gaps at the top and bottom.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 07:36 AM

Here's a drawing of what you should see if the 6" bezel is used with the 8" OTA.

-Dan

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 01:24 PM

I figured you guys would have some answers. Based on your diagram Dan I think I got the 8SE bezel with my 6SE, as the 8 is completely flush as in your second picture when attached to the mount. I'll have to check it again tonight after work, but it didn't have the gap you detailed above. I'll try and post some pics as well.

Supposed to get TWO WEEKS of rain now. OF COURSE.






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