Posted 21 February 2013 - 09:41 AM
Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:03 AM
Posted 21 February 2013 - 11:14 AM
Posted 21 February 2013 - 12:18 PM
The Skymasters are very inexpensive binoculars built to a price point that may have some deficiencies if you are unlucky. They have a light build so are easily knocked out of alignment. If you need to keep the price low you may do better getting a similar binocular from a vendor who stands behind their products like Oberwerk or Garrett. These would be the 20x80LW models they offer:
There are higher quality options such as the Oberwerk 20x80 Deluxe III or the Garrett 20x80 WP-CF MkII which have improved mechanical and optical quality.
Posted 21 February 2013 - 12:26 PM
And I was hoping to hold the price down since I don't use them frequently.
Posted 21 February 2013 - 12:36 PM
Posted 21 February 2013 - 12:49 PM
Posted 21 February 2013 - 12:54 PM
They are still of the same mediocre quality as many 20x80s,but at least the extra aperture is there!
You can also improve the image quality considerably by masking them down to 50mm or 60mm. The increased focal ratio works wonders!
Posted 21 February 2013 - 01:14 PM
So the ones you linked don't have the aperture restrictions?
The Oberwerk 20x80 Deluxe III or the Garrett 20x80 WP-CF MkII are based on the Kunming United BA10 series which are not restricted like the LW binos. These have the more robust prism design of the premium BA8 binoculars sold as the Ultras/Signatures by these vendors.
Posted 21 February 2013 - 05:58 PM
Posted 21 February 2013 - 06:08 PM
I quite like that description, "fooling".
It's much easier to type than "conditionally aligning".
Posted 21 February 2013 - 08:18 PM
Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:13 AM
I wouldn't be looking at the skymasters but they are from a coworker and I expect a fairly low asking price. And they are 100 mm.
Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:24 AM
To answer your question, I would prefer a Garrett or Oberwerk at that price point new ($320), even if it were less aperture. As far as the value used, I would still prefer to spend the money on a 20x80 from Garrett or Oberwerk!
Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:37 AM
I do recommend some blue loc-tite 242 for the knob on the tripod mount, and for the set screws that lock the center post to the frame (to keep everything tight). When I contacted Hayneedle about these issues, they stood behind their product by offering to swap them for another pair. I declined, so they reimbursed me $10 for my troubles instead. They were very professional. I have no hesitation in recommending them as a source, if the products are right for you.
Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:45 AM
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:53 PM
My experience with Zhumell (thread)
As long as you aren't too picky about having super tight star images and such, you should be happy with the Zhumell 25x100.