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#1 ben2112

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 05:25 PM

Look what arrived today. I can't wait to try it out. Supposed to be clear skies tomorrow night.

I put it up against the eyepiece I was using. Man, What a HUGE difference.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 07:49 PM

Nice piece of glass!

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 08:22 AM

Yeah.. I was surprised how big it is compared to my Celestron kit I got with my scope. It is supposed to be a nice clear night tonight. Going to give it a try.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 11:06 AM

Hi Ben,

I'm sure you'll enjoy the views your Baader 17mm will give you. I have the 21mm, the 17mm and the 13mm and find them excellent in quality and thus good value for money.

Don't forget also, that they are modular in construction.

Used in conjunction with a 2" diagonal, your 68 AFOV 17mm/1.25" becomes the equivalent of a 22mm/2" by simply removing the lens the 1.25" nose-piece contains, so accordingly, the magnification of the 17mm, (i.e. ca. X120 becomes ca. X92, giving an increase in the true FOV from ca. 0.57 deg. to ca. 0.74 deg.).

Have fun ! :waytogo:

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 10:25 PM

Just got back in after seeing through it. It was like a difference between night and day. The wife was amazed by the views. I am going back out in a few hours to see if I get to grab a view of Saturn.

I really want to give a big thanks to Starman1 (Don) for suggesting this eyepiece. I am thinking of getting the 13mm and 8mm.

Tel - Yeah, I was reading the manual about that. That is actually pretty cool. I'll have to look at getting a 2in diagonal down the road.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 02:51 AM

ok i have to ask would these be good in the 6se ?

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 07:11 AM

ok i have to ask would these be good in the 6se ?


I don't see why not. After observing last night, these eyepieces are so much better then stock. But I will add that it is BIG!! Very big.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 07:18 AM

Ben

What's that doughnut attached to the focus knob? I'm looking for something like that to help w/ fine focus.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 07:24 AM

James - That is part of my electric focuser plans, if I can find a Continuous Rotation servo. For now, it helps to focus when you are wearing gloves. It's just a tire for a model airplane I picked up at a hobby store.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 07:37 AM

Love the tire! Looks a lot nicer than some of the foam donuts I've seen in use.

I have a bunch of the Baader Hyperions too - check my sig line. These are great eyepieces at a reasonable price and work well on both my 8SE and 5SE. The 13mm is probably my most used eyepiece, followed closely by the 21mm. You'll find that the 8mm gets less use because on many nights the seeing isn't good enough for the the 250x mag it provides. But, there are certainly plenty of nights where it's useful, and it's great for planetary and lunar observing.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 08:31 AM

I know. I was actually looking for the cheap foam tires but couldn't find them. I came across a set of those tires. I wasn't sure the center of the tire would work. But it fits nice and tight.

Also, what is a good case for these eyepieces. I had plans to use the case my Celestron eyepieces came in, but that won't work. Way to big for it. Got any suggestions?

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 08:51 AM

ok i have to ask would these be good in the 6se ?


I don't see why not. After observing last night, these eyepieces are so much better then stock. But I will add that it is BIG!! Very big.


The 17mm is one of my most used EPs in my SCTs.

If you think the Baader Hyperian is big, try an Ethos 17.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 09:15 AM

A bolt case from Agena might work. Check the two larger sizes. The 85mm is actually 2.5" ID.

http://agenaastro.co...iece Container

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 09:15 AM

I wander how big the TV Panoptics are.

Arctic_Eddie - I was thinking of a hard case. I found this one, but I am not sure the price is worth it.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 10:02 AM

Also, what is a good case for these eyepieces. I had plans to use the case my Celestron eyepieces came in, but that won't work. Way to big for it. Got any suggestions?


There's lots of different options. I'd check out the Equipment forum and search on equipment cases or eyepiece cases. Seems like every few months there's a thread there with loads of pictures and suggestions from people.

I use a cheap harbor freight case. I bought some foam and cut the shapes out with a fishing filet knife.

Case: http://www.harborfre...case-69315.html
Foam: http://www.foambymai...rcoal-foam.html
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 10:08 AM

I would check out some Plano pistol cases. Here's one possibility.

http://www.amazon.co...e/dp/B000P3WPKK

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 06:50 PM

Dan- Nice organized EP case

Eddie-Thanks for the pistol case link.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 03:38 AM

Dan, that is nice organised case. I think I might have to make a run to HF

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 04:57 AM

Just out of interest, here's my E.P case. Very similar to Dan's (great minds and all that). My ipad sits there when I'm observing.

Regards. Peter.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 05:17 AM

Peter - Nice collection. What kind of case is that?

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 06:48 AM

For the Hyperion gurus, can I expect the same performance in the 24mm EP in terms of clarity throughout the FOV?

My birthday is coming soon and my little Jeanne d'Arc thinks I need something more than just another package of underwear. :jump:

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 07:30 AM

Peter - Nice collection. What kind of case is that?


Thanks Ben,

Same as Dan's I think. We call them Flight cases.

http://www.maplin.co...m-x-160mm-36796

They come in large and small. I have both but the one in the picture is the large. I sourced mine second hand through ebay and paid £10 (which included postage) for it. Like Dan, I bought the foam and cut it to size with a craft knife.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 10:16 AM

For the Hyperion gurus, can I expect the same performance in the 24mm EP in terms of clarity throughout the FOV?


Hi Eddie:

Mine seems to be the same quality as the others in the lineup.

You may notice it's not in my case, but that's just because it's part of my grab and go kit. For me, grab and go means a smaller scope with a 1.25" diagonal, so I use a Hyperion Zoom, a 2x barlow, and the 24mm Hyperion. I know the zoom goes to 24mm, but the field is pretty narrow, so I got the 24mm/68°AFOV Hyperion to cover the widest possible view with a 1.25" optical path.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 10:25 AM

Dan, that is nice organised case. I think I might have to make a run to HF


By the way, if you need to do circular holes, this is the tip I used:
http://www.cloudynig...Number/2830238/

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 10:44 AM

As I have noted several times I won a Orion 17 mm Stratus years ago the EARNED its way into my eyepiece case when it sits with my Pentax XW's an Panoptics... it honestly is 90 to 95 percent as good optically in my Scts as the others which sell for 3 ties as much..

As for cases... I use ones (actually 3 of them) that were sold by Lowes for like 20 bucks..came with foam also... been like 10-15 years ago and they are still as good as new..

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