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#51 Mike Clemens

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 09:57 AM

No.. you need to ask them.

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 10:30 AM

When i first signed up they sent me an email confirming joining the wait list. So when I see these threads from time to time I search my inbox in hope to remind myself when I joined. I'm always dissappointed I joined later than I thought I did...

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 07:54 PM

For fellow Gmail users, I should mention I found my notification in my Spam folder. I almost deleted it along with all the spam. You don't want to do that...

#54 johnnyha

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 08:06 PM

It's just like the cicadas but slightly more often!

#55 Hermie

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 03:48 PM

Schaden,

Dreams are free. Put your name on the list. You don't need to decide until you are notified. But now, your chances are slim because when Roland retires there won't be any more.

Next best/similar? TOA 130,TEC 140, FS128, TV127, APM 130. No particular order, all different, all very good.

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#56 JimP

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 04:39 PM

What do you think about 5" aperture?

#57 Mike Clemens

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 05:11 PM

> What do you think about 5" aperture?

With a small focal length, FUN for panning the milky way in a pair of bino's with low power widefields.

With a high focal length.... typically enough planetary resolution to leave me wanting.

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 06:30 PM

I'll add that 5" is very good for perusing double stars. In fact that is where I intend to put my 130 GT to good use (my copies of Pleasures of the Telescope, the 3rd Ed. of Celestial Objects for Common Telescopes and on and on close at hand). Of course I know nothing of wide field deep sky imaging, an area in which it should excel.

#59 DeanS

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 06:50 PM

I have only been on the list since 12/08 so have many years to save up ;)

#60 davebuechler

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 07:20 PM

Having only recently been added to their list, I doubt I will get mine before Roland retires, but I sure hope so!

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 12:28 AM

Roland says this *is* his retirement job.

But glass has gotten to be a problem- yield for glass suppliers drops with the inverse cube of diameter, and they have massive orders for the tiny stuff in smart phone cameras.

email Daleen at astro-physics.com and she will tell you where you are on the list. In the midst of orders, they are busy, but you will get an answer. Notification means the lens set for a telescope has completed all figuring and is ready to go out for coatings. AP is in the hole aready about 1/3 the cost of the scope just on materials, so that is why they ask for 1/2 the price of the scope at notification then will ask for the other half to ship.

What shows up should be perfect. If any misadventure has happened, they are prepared to take whatever action is needed to make it so- up to and including holding reserve OTAs to replace one if some extreme misadventure happens in transit (though they say this has never happened).

As for getting on the list- DO IT if you're going to and get on with your hobby as if it was just a lottery ticket. Get a variety of scopes and have fun. If you get notified, you'll have some real skill from the other gear you have been using. The AP130 EDFGT really does defy belief. If you don't want to wait, there will be people who thought they knew what they were doing when they ordered it, and will open the box and say, "I'm going to need a bigger mount" and decide they really can't deal with it, then list it still in the bag at cost. Then there are idiots who think this is a clever way to make $800 (burning your rep with Roland forever is the actual price of doing that, so you are warned- you won't get notifed again).

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 08:06 AM

OK, I got my notification. Still haven't responded as I'm on the fence. Little to no time for astronomy these days.

The GM-8 is my largest mount. Is it enough mount for the AP130 EDF?

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 09:03 AM

Barely- the AP 130 EDFGT with tube rings, dovetail, and finder scope weighs 25 lbs; about what a C11 OTA does. So, if a mount can carry a C11, it will carry the AP 130 EDFGT. A CGEM was the first mount I used, and it worked extremely well.

There is a bit of "Wow, what was I thinking?" moment when getting one out of the box. But the performance is a good cure.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 05:35 PM

I got on the list in 2007. Wow how time flies I'm hopefully over half way through waiting lol!!!!

#65 Mike Clemens

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 07:19 PM

> The GM-8 is my largest mount. Is it enough
> mount for the AP130 EDF?

Visually OK. Not the ideal world but I would sure do it.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 08:04 PM

Thanks for the data point, Starhawk. Was looking at the Atlas and CGEM mounts this morning. Looks like either would suffice if the GM-8 falls short.

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:42 AM

Thanks for the data point, Starhawk. Was looking at the Atlas and CGEM mounts this morning. Looks like either would suffice if the GM-8 falls short.


I use mine on a Losmandy GM8. Its fine, really nice actually. Better then I thouight it would be on this mount. And, if I use one of my Berlebach tripods its wonderful.

I don't think you'll have an issue.

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Posted 23 May 2013 - 11:34 AM

Thanks for the data point, Starhawk. Was looking at the Atlas and CGEM mounts this morning. Looks like either would suffice if the GM-8 falls short.


I use mine on a Losmandy GM8. Its fine, really nice actually. Better then I thouight it would be on this mount. And, if I use one of my Berlebach tripods its wonderful.

I don't think you'll have an issue.


Congrats on the GT, Paul! Did you keep your APM?

#69 PeterR280

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 06:19 PM

I got notification last week and made the deposit. I signed up in January 2004.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 10:08 AM

Anyone get theirs on the new run, yet? I am wondering what serial numbers appear.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 05:35 PM

My Sales Invoice states an anticipated delivery of May 2013, I went on the list in 2002......not many days left in May but I've not given up hope yet :grin:

Tim

Anyone get theirs on the new run, yet? I am wondering what serial numbers appear.

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#72 Jeff Crilly

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 01:11 AM

i got on the list in 2004... and also got a ap130gt email recently. I did not hesitate sending in a deposit. I started w/ this hobby in about 1996.. and when i saw the AP gear i figured i'd never be that spendy. Then in 2004 i had some extra bucks, and wanted a decent refractor for astrophotos... got on all the lists, including the mounts... i should have gotten on the notification list earlier.. anyhow, over the years i've dabbled with the very fine TAK optics.. they are nearly just as good as the AP stuff, but the focusers are nicer on the AP stuff in my opinion. There's a few AP130GTs around the local astro community, in addition to other AP gear... pretty nice instrument.. i'd prefer a bit more aperture... like a 160.

As for mounting.. fwiw, a friend mounted the AP130GT on a Skyview-Pro without any problem (for visual use).

#73 Doug D.

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 07:20 AM

So, if I'm following the last few e-mails correctly the current run of GTs began with folks on the notification list from 2002 and at this point is up to 2004? Is that about right for GTs or are they in fact plowing through the list more quickly this run (slightly increased production, still lousy economy, or simply fewer takers)? If there is to be another run it looks like I just might make it next round.....

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 10:25 AM

I hope, I hope. :waytogo:

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 11:25 AM

I put my deposit down in May, expected delivery is August. I have a G11 but want to use a goto CG-5 in the field for visual. I don't see why the CG-5 wouldn't be able to handle it. I have a TV102 on the CG-5 but the AP130GT weighs almost twice as much. Length is about the same. It's very stable with the TV102. The tripod with 2 inch legs feels very solid.






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