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#1 crazyqban

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 12:16 AM

First of all, a big thank you to all who chimed in on my previous post "TSA-120... To upgarde or not to upgrade?". I went ahead and pulled the trigger on a like-new Takahashi TSA-120. I purchased it in like new condition from a fellow astromarter. The best part was that I was able to meet up with him and purchase it in person since we both like in Florida, a big plus as far as I am concerned. I am curently in Disney World and wouldn't you know it, SOLID CLOUDS & RAIN!!! The scope is for all i tents in purposes in brand new condition. It was purchased in January of this year and it has a 2012 serial number. I don't know when I will get to have first light (we only got to look at some trees when I was inspecting it for purchase) but as soon as I do I will comment on that here. Compared to my FS-102 it feels like it has a bit more heft which caught me by surprise since the weight difference is supposed to be about three pounds. I am planning on doing some side by side comparisons with my FS-102 and also with a friend's TEC 140 and then I will decide on the next course of action. 1) Sell the FS-102 and keep the TSA-120 or 2) Sell the TSA-120, keep the FS-102 and get a TEC 140. If I go with option 2, it will probably be a couple of years before I get around to that. For now, here is some photos for your enjoyment...

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 12:17 AM

The business end...

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 12:18 AM

Side by side with the FS-102...

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 12:18 AM

Both objectives...

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 12:19 AM

On my Lapides Modified Teegul/Belrlebach UNI-24 combo...

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 12:40 AM

They are getting so common I might have to sell mine........
Congrats on a great acquisition, I'm sure you will love it !
look forward to reading your first light thoughts on it.

I just fitted mine to its new perch on top of my new Tyrannosaurus Rex.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 12:42 AM

Sweeettttt!!!! I'm waiting on a new Nova Hitch.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 12:46 AM

Love the look of the Berlebach tripod and binoviewers with the TSA.
Keep us posted on any developments, personally I think the TSA120 is the perfect size refractor, both for visual and a/p as well as reasonable portability. Love your first pic of the proud owner holding his new baby !

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 12:46 AM

I am surprised you don't have to put the Atlas pier extension on that T-REX to clear the tripod legs.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:36 AM

Congrats Sergio!!! That will make a nice companion for your 16.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:59 AM

Congrats Sergio! Are you gonna switch the Feathertouch over to the TSA120?

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 06:57 AM

The TSA mounted up on a Nova Hitch should end up being a little slice of refractor heaven/nirvana! :rockon:

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 09:07 AM

Here is the first Nova Hitch with my TEC on it. It will go great with the 120. Congrats on the beautiful scope.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 12:41 PM

I am envious of you, Sergio. This is my dream scope, but it is out of my price range. Did you notice if it appeared front end heavy compared to your FS-102? Size-wise..they look somewhat similar..I guess since the FS-102 is f/8 and the TSA 120 is f/7.5. I hope you enjoy it!

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 01:01 PM

Bill,
You have too many SCTs. : )
I suggest you sell your Meade 12 ACF and your SV102ED and use that to help fund a TSA-120.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 02:26 PM

Well I did recently sell the SV 102ED by consignment with Stellarvue to put that money toward the SV 115 triplet. Still waiting for the 115, but should be here in 10-14 days. Hopefully this scope will last me a lifetime. Might sell the Meade 12 if I can downsize to the Meade 10 ACF glossy blue paint finish. Will probably always keep the C14 for deep sky targets at our astro clubs darker site.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 06:26 PM

Sergio,we will be very interested in your comparison of the FS-102 & the TSA-120. I am very happy for you.

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 12:28 AM

Kunama, Joe C, Johnny, t.r., Bill Barlow, thanks.

Johnny, I am not sure yet. I really want a 3.5" Feathertouch, not because I need it since it is overkill for visual but I really like that focuser. I especially like the rotating system much more than on the 3".

I should be able to do some TSA-120/FS-102 comparisons sometime next week if we have good weather in Miami.

Speaking of good weather, tonight in Disney World the skies were totally clear so I took the TSA-120 outside of my hotel room and got to do a quick first light. I only looked at the Moon and Saturn but both looked really good and sharp. It was a quick view and I only had my Mark Vs with 24 Pans, a 21mm Ethos and a 13mm Ethos. Saturn was small but still looked sharp and clear. The moon was excellent but I was not able to come to focus with the Mark Vs without a Glasspath Compensator. I do not have any of those here with me so I will have to wait until I get home. A good thing that happened tonight was that there were some kids form Chile here for a cheerleading competition and they stopped by to look at Saturn and the Moon. They were all impressed and none had never looked through a telescope before. Anyways, I will post some more stuff once I get some more observing time in.

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 07:55 AM

Sergio,

Congrats! Nice scopes! I hope you enjoy a few eons of fantastic views.

Eric

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 12:08 PM

Congrats Sergio!

Looking forward to your review.

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 08:26 PM

How is the stock focuser Sergio? I had heard that the TSA120 has an upgraded focuser with less image shift than earlier Taks. They certainly are gorgeous to look at.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 12:29 AM

Thanks EricCCD, StarDust1.

Johnny, the focuser is not too bad but it is not a FEathertouch. I don't think that anything comes close to the larger Feathertouch foucusers, they are just wonderful.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:18 AM

Both objectives...


Hi Sergio,
Beautiful pictures of these scopes side-side. But where is the glass in your FS :question: :lol:

Looking forward to hear how your samples of FS and TSA compare for you.

I did that test with my samples and found that at high powers, the FS has a cleanliness to the star images and planets that is comparable to how the objectives look in your picture. The TSA has a color free images that are just iIncredible though.

Hope you're in for some good weather soon :jump:

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 02:13 PM

Looks great Sergio -

Hey, do you happen to know what the load capacity is for the stock focuser? I am thinking about getting one of these myself and dont no if I should keep the tak focuser, do the simple FT retrofit, are get an entire FT focuser system including the adapter to the OTA. Anyone no the answer here?

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 02:27 PM

So far I am happy with the Takahashi focuser. The 3" & 3.5" Feathertouch focusers are better as far as I am concerned but perhaps not at the added expense. For the moment I can live with the stock Tak focuser. What I am on the fence about is which scope I should keep. I am not totally sure if the 18mm difference in aperture is enough to justify the move but I still have not had the chance to do a head to head comparison and probably wont until I get my new mount. As far as the Feathertouch retrofit is concerned, I had one on my FS-102 and I thought it was OK. More to come when I get a good night to put both scope through the paces.






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