6se vrs 8se
Posted 01 May 2013 - 03:09 PM
My reasons for choosing the 6 was price point, I was able to get the bundle with all the stuff I thought I would need instead of using all the funds on just the scope. I’ve enjoyed playing with a cam to get some [pictures and goofing with registax and I notice I’m getting better. I think long term I would like to get the 11”from celestron, I love the go to features, and use the hyperstar I see a lot of really nice images there and I can see myself leaning in that direction. So would it make sense to stick with the se for viewing and just use the future goal for ap? I do like the portability and it has been nice for family bbq’s so far this year and seeing things family has never seen. . .as well as some really impressive things.
Posted 01 May 2013 - 03:19 PM
Posted 01 May 2013 - 03:27 PM
The 6SE is a fantastic scope. That was the one I almost bought, but decided to get the 8SE because of my slice of light pollution heaven.
You will have many years of enjoying your new scope.
Posted 01 May 2013 - 03:31 PM
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 03:35 PM
Posted 01 May 2013 - 03:46 PM
Or, for example, you could go for the EdgeHD version of the 8", which has benefits if you're not going to use hyperstar. (Well, the vents and mirror locks and better design are good, too, even if you do use hyperstar.)
The 11" will certainly great for visual, but for AP with the 11" you'll probably want to be in a much more substantial mount, e.g. the CGEM DX, and get an autoguider if you're planning to do long exposures.
(Again, I'm relaying advice I've heard, so take this with a grain of second-hand-advice salt.)
Posted 01 May 2013 - 03:51 PM
Posted 01 May 2013 - 04:01 PM
Posted 01 May 2013 - 04:13 PM
Congratulations & welcome.
I personally have the 8SE, but here's my take: If you intend to take pictures, the 6SE is probably a better bet. While it has nearly 50% less light gathering capability than the 8, the mount itself is identical. The 6SE is going to be more mechanically stable on the mount than the 8SE. For visual use, you may have to strain a bit more to see a dim extended object. But for getting your feet wet in webcam or DSLR imaging, the 6SE, being mechanically more stable, won't ring quite as much, and will stabilize faster.
If you get seriously bit with the AP bug, hold out for an Edge. In the meantime, keep the 6SE as the "easily fits in the back of the car & goes places" scope. The best scope is not the biggest one--it's the one you take out & use a lot.
As a retirement gift (not for several years yet!), I have my eye on an Edge on the VX mount.
Posted 01 May 2013 - 04:20 PM
Posted 01 May 2013 - 04:41 PM
I started with the 6 and eventually bought a used 8"OTA on the forums for $400, and the difference is measurable. As has been noted, the 8 is also heavier, thus you get increased vibration issues due to the greater strain on the mount. However, if you tie some weights to the eyepiece holder on the mount (bungie cords work well) you can minimize the shakes better. Vibration pads help too.
I haven't tested too much AP work yet with the new OTA but visually it's been noticeably better. The clouds around M42 were more detailed, and I could see more detail in Jupiter and Saturn so far as well.
I would recommend upgrading if you can get a good deal, but I probably wouldn't spend more than say $500 to do so. Anything over that and I might as well start saving for an EQ mount.
Posted 01 May 2013 - 04:43 PM
I have the 6SE as a travel scope. I used to have a 8SE, but traded down - easier for me to move the 6SE around.
At a dark and quiet skies site, my 6SE will sometimes give views that rival my CPC1100 beast from my light polluted skies at home.
That 6SE is a fine scope. Rugged, steady, and easy to use. IMHO, it is a lot of big-bang-theory for the bucks.
If you want to find out your sky conditions and light pollution, check HERE and find a location that is close to your viewing position.
Posted 01 May 2013 - 04:51 PM
Posted 01 May 2013 - 04:59 PM
Any thought on how the hyperstar works on the 6"?
I have the HS for the CPC1100 and gave some thought to the 6SE. After a bit, I decided it was not worth it...for me.
Here is the problem.
The HS fits on the front of the scope and then you attach a camera to the HS. If you have a coke-can shaped camera then you will be ok. However, if you try to use a DSLR, the camera shadows(blocks) a fair amount of light getting to the corrector plate. Basically, the DSLR would cause numerous problems due to blocking the light path.
I have a coke-can camera (ATIK 460EX), but I would still not buy a HS for the 6SE - return on investment is just not there for me. You need to decide.
For imaging on the 6SE I use a f6.3 reducer and a Canon camera. Keep the image times short and shoot images toward the east/west (prevent field rotation) and the ALT/AZ mount will surprise you.
Posted 01 May 2013 - 08:37 PM
I opted for the 8 SE and I am glad that I did, as in our suburbs of a somewhat major city there is enough light pollution to need the extra gathering capability...but I still think the 6 SE would probably be a nice 'scope as well.
Posted 01 May 2013 - 09:12 PM
You did great . Keep the 6. If u want more get an 11 not an 8.
Posted 02 May 2013 - 07:58 AM
Had to laugh at Katies comment about her 6 vs her 11 at a dark site.. I too Live in Maryland and boy at Cherry Springs Penna my 8i just KILLS my CPC1100 which I have mounted in my observatory at home.....and my little 100 mm refractor equals or betters my 8i IF I use the 8i at home
Posted 02 May 2013 - 04:23 PM