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#1 ben2112

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 07:33 AM

My birthday is coming up this month. I have a budget of $150 to get a new eyepiece. I am looking at the Baader Hyperion 13mm. But I have also been thinking about getting a bino. Summers here in the south is terrible at night. Skeeters and humidity. So I was thinking of getting a set of binos to take out in the yard and when I can't take the skeeters and no see ums. I can just walk back in with the binos. Been looking at the Celestron 15x70 and 25x70, Oberwerks, even the Konus 20x80 (but they look heavy). I am not against using a lightweight tripod if need be.

What do you guys think? Eyepiece or binos? My list of binos isn't written in stone.. Just been looking at brands and keeping to my $150 budget.

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 07:53 AM

Hi Ben,

Can't help with which brand but I think a pair of Bino's is a great asset. I always have mine with me when observing but find them most useful when conditions are too bad for telescope use but there are enough clear patches in the sky to allow the use of Bino's.
Mine have seen a lot of use this year, in fact, more use than the scope, and I've been very thankful for them.

Mine are 10 x 50 BTW

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 08:30 AM

If your binos have straight eyepieces then you will have a neck problem in probably less than one minute. The 45° prism eyepieces help if your target is less than mid height. One trick I used many years ago when only binos were available was to use a reclining lawn chair. Your neck is in a much more comfortable position with your elbows on the arm rest. There are articulated arm mounts just for this purpose that work well with a lawn chair.

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 08:38 AM

Eddie - That is what I thought of when getting them.. A reclining lawn chair..

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 10:32 AM

I have the Celestron 15 x 70's. They are great for the money. A little heavy but come with an adapter to connect to a tripod. It's a little difficult to use that way since it seems one leg is always in the way :p. With a lawn chair they work for medium altitude targets for overhead get a flat inflatable pool floatie and laydown.

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 11:15 AM

You can get both the binos and eyepiece, atleast the binos you have stated.

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 12:07 PM

My first venture into looking up was in the 70's using a Bushnell 7x35WA bino and a camping cot. On the banks of the Suwannee River in Dixie County, FL the views were spectacular.

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 12:22 PM

If you're handy with wood, here's an example of what you can do. You may even find someone selling a kit.

http://randombio.com/binoculars.html

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 12:30 PM

And another.

http://www.cloudynig...3334395/Main...

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 01:47 PM

If Skeeters and no see-ums are the biggest issue, haave you tried using a Thermacell? I've found it to be extraordinarily effective and you're not left with a layer of smelly bug-spray to wash off your body before going to bed.

Google Thermacell, and do a search on the Equipment forum to find the frequent discussions (at least in the summer) about it.
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Posted 05 May 2013 - 08:56 PM

Dan - Oh yeah.. A buddy of mine uses that when he goes hunting. They work really well. I will have to look at getting one..

And, I decided to get the 15x70 Skymaster binos. I couldn't pass up the $60 price from Amazon. Besides the price, the eye relief is 18mm. That should work pretty good for me since I wear glasses. That leaves me $90 I am going to put back in my astro fund. I can add to that to get my 13mm Baader next month or I might get a crosshair reticule. I like the one Dan got. The Orion 20mm model.

I am excited. I can't wait for my binos to come in. :jump: :yay: :woot:

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 03:46 PM

My binos have arrived as well as the clouds.. :mad:

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 04:51 PM

Ben you should have ordered the eyepiece at the same time and get the curse out of the way.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 05:18 PM

I am a little short of the eyepiece I want to get. I have $90 left and the eyepiece I want is the Baader Hyperion 13mm which is $129. So, I have to save a few more pennies.. So, next month will be more clouds.. :lol:

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 05:34 PM

You can buy all the Thermacell you need to Academy.

I stocked up on the pads and butane since we are making another trip to the Dark skies (family farm) in a month.

I planned it this time for new moon. Last year was almost full moon :foreheadslap:

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 05:40 PM

Matt - I wish we still had our family farm. It got sold off a long time ago. :( I miss that place..

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 05:30 PM

I'm a bit late to the topic, but I would say either an 8 mm or 13 mm (or something in between) is my ideal first upgraded EP; I find that I use the 8 mm and 13 mm EPs more than any others during my sessions. So, I think you are making a smart choice to go for a 13 mm :)

I also think a wide FOV 25mm-ish would be neat for some of the larger objects such as Andromeda, Pleiades, and Orion Nebula, but that would be more specialized usage and therefore probably more long-term of a plan.

My primary dilemma (other than $$$) is that I am not sure whether I should just wait until I can go with 2" EPs or not.

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 10:03 PM

Hey Sam.. I am going to get the 13mm. The cool thing about the Baader Hyperions is they are modular. You unscrew the bottom part and BAM!! 2in eyepiece. So it's like 2 in 1. :cool:






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