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Sky X Pro Camera Control Add or Maxim DL w/ CCDAP?

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#1 robininni

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 10:46 PM

I am wanting to get into CCD Autopilot and so I am looking at what all I will need to be completely automated.

I currently have Starry Night Pro Plus 6, Sequence Generator Pro, Nebulosity 3, Artemis Capture, and Backyard EOS.

CCDAP works with either CCDSoft (no longer available), The Sky X Pro Camera Control Add-on, or Maxim DL and then I need to get The Sky X Pro for it to use for planetarium functions/plate solving.

So... This leaves me with buying the Camera Control Add-on for the Sky X Pro or getting Maxim DL. I use both CCD and DSLR. Any thought on the Camera Control Add-on? Should I get Maxim DL instead? Do I need both for some reason?

Also, as a side note, I want either Tpoint or Maxpoint as well and since I will be using The Sky X Pro with CCDAP, I am getting the idea the Tpoint add-on would be a better choice than Maxpoint.

Any advice from those using the above software would be great.

Thanks,

Rob

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 06:23 AM

I have TSX Pro with all the addons, I also have an older copy of MaxIm DL 4.5 & the currently still supported CCDSoft5. I have final gotten to the point where I like TSX (stopped using TS6). All things being equal if I have had to currently choose between only TSX with camera addon and MaxIm I would choose MaxIm.

In my case I still end up using CCDSoft a lot. I don't think the camera addon for TSx is feature rich enough as a replacement program for CCDSoft. The big plus the CO has over CCDSoft is the very much improved plate solving. It is very fast and reliable.

My problem with CO is its lack of processing features and lack of plugins. The autoguiding is done from a separate module. This makes for some cumbersome operations. For instance if you want to swap functions between the guiding and imaging cameras. CCDSoft was also much more script friendly than the CO is.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 08:31 AM

Thanks, Marcus. I have another question for you:

Will the Sky X Pro plate solve using Maxim DL for its camera and not having the Camera Add-on?

I see that I can still get CCDSoft IF I buy the $1200 "Universal" The Sky Pro but I don't want all the stuff it comes with **just** to get CCDSoft.

Thanks,

Rob

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 08:28 PM

I'd look at Sequence Generator Pro. It's as capable (if not more) and it's quite a bit cheaper.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 06:14 PM

I'd look at Sequence Generator Pro. It's as capable (if not more) and it's quite a bit cheaper.


I own it and found it a bit buggy for my taste (as of 6 months ago) and then it can't use FocusMax which I didn't like because its own focus routine just wasn't good enough.

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 02:49 AM

I've found SGP to be very reliable and the developers very responsive, maybe it's been improved in the last six months.

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 08:35 PM

I've found SGP to be very reliable and the developers very responsive, maybe it's been improved in the last six months.

Chris


They are very responsive and nice! I still have it and may use it later. I'm sort of collecting 'all' the software out there :).

Rob

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Posted 05 April 2015 - 01:37 PM

Gents

Still on the Fence about buy MaximDL vs The SkyX pro and the addons. I have a G11+ES 127mm APO and a T5 for now. I have BYeos, PHD, Stellarium and i just added AstroTortilla. 

It is very expensive to buy the initial software and to end up paying a yearly subscription ($75 or so), but if it is worth, i will pull the trigger on it.



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Posted 07 April 2015 - 11:04 AM

Unless you have some very particular reason to want to use CCDAP, I'd recommend staying with SGP, it seems to get better and better. I have, after five months, more or less figured out how to use CCDAP but really it's so clunky that SGP is just a better choice for most people. The basic problem with it is that it's inconsistent in terms of what it updates as you change things in the various tabs. I just push update every time I change anything and that works most of the time. Try restarting a multi-target run after midnight is another example of very strange behavior. You'll see what I mean after a while if you use it. As someone told me "Once you get it working, it's OK" but really I wouldn't bother with it unless there is something specific you can't do with SGP. Or save up your dollars and buy ACP.

 

I use both SKYX (with all the doodads) and MaximDL 6 with MaxPoint. To me the big advantage for the SKYX versus MaximDL is the planetarium software with the associated data base abilities. It's really easy, for example, to find a G2V star to calibrate your camera or to adjust focusing to select just the right star brightness and the available catalog of DSO's is larger. If that sort of thing is what you're after, then the SKY X is by far your best choice. Maxim has a rich set of parameters associated with focusing, guiding and camera control that the SKYX add-ons don't match. So, to me, unless data/base planetarium is an issue or you own a Paramount then MaximDL is what to get. If you own a Parmount or want/need a really robust integrated data base of DSO's then I'd get the SKYX. I use both Maxpoint and Tpoint for pointing and really don't see much difference. I do find that guiding works better with Maxim (maybe because there are more adjustments) and I'm using distinctly better equipment with the SKYX.

 

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