Bluestar bluetooth adapter & Windows 8
Posted 11 May 2013 - 08:43 AM
My nexstar 11gps can't connect to pc via Bluetooth adapter with win 8 (same with vista and win7)installed on an Asus vivo tab Smart. I paired with pc and light on bluestar shows slow but when I check for a COM port in nexremote software I can't see them. So I change port number in the control panel and nexremote see them but when I choose one it says "unable to open serial".Please help me.Best regards
Posted 15 May 2013 - 05:06 PM
Posted 16 May 2013 - 10:48 AM
Thanks anyway to all
Stefano from Italy
Posted 16 May 2013 - 06:41 PM
Posted 19 May 2013 - 08:18 AM
Bluetooth stack in recent Windows (7 and 8) can be tricky to use, unfortunately. BTW, 8 made a lot of old things obsolete.
<edit> more fun
Posted 08 June 2013 - 06:10 AM
I know it's a pain to spend another $150. Unless you know how to write a 64-bit driver for the Bluestar (and you probably can't even if you knew how to write drivers since you won't be able to get any information about the Bluestar's programming modes), welcome to planned obsolescence and the vagaries of the marketplace.
Posted 11 June 2013 - 09:25 PM
Posted 12 July 2013 - 09:21 PM
It's interesting to note that on my old 32 bit laptop (a Gateway) I was able to boot into Linux Xubuntu which had no Bluetooth drivers available and I was able to use the Bluestar (and Cartes du Ciel) just fine. Crazy.
Win 8 assigns COM 3 for outgoing and COM 4 for incoming Bluetooth signals; I remember that there was only one COM port assigned in WinXP, so I'm not sure why two in Win8. This might be causing a problem.
It's possible that the Bluestar drivers need to be installed in WinXP compatibility mode as well, but Win8 is (in my opinion) a very hostile to use OS. It mostly gets in the way of everything I want to do. (I installed a program called Classic Shell to get past most of what I don't like about Win8...)
I am going to experiment some more to see if I can make this Bluestar work with Win8. If not, I will probably install a dual boot to Linux Xubuntu and just use that for guiding my scope around. I don't see the point in throwing away a perfectly good Bluetooth adapter.
In either case, I'll post my results here.
(FWIW, I don't remember the installation being a piece of cake in WinXP either; I know I did a full report on this years ago in this forum.I'll have to look it up.)
Posted 12 July 2013 - 11:04 PM
I basically kept thinking, this has to be a COM port conflict; so, I kept approaching it from different angles till I happened on the right way to do it in Windows 8. It works!!!
In order to do this, I decided to switch off the new laptop's internal Bluetooth and use my Bluetooth dongle (Belkin mini) to hook up. I kept running up against all the same walls as outlined by others in this thread using the dongle.
At any rate, I decided to keep plugging away. Bluestar drivers are not necessary; some research showed me that they were probably never necessary for Bluetooth operation... only needed for USB to Bluestar connections. So if you installed these in Win8, dump them off your system if you are only going to use the wireless setup.
Another note; I hate, hate, hate the Win8 tile look. My nephew told me about something called Classic Shell (google it) that makes your win8 look like win xp or win7. I have mine set to look like win7. So my instructions below show you how to do this from a classic win7 GUI. You can probably still do this using the Win8 GUI stuff, but the tabs and places you need to get might mean a different way to get there. Just know that a Windows 8 64 bit laptop can talk to Bluestar and be used with your ASCOM driven planetarium software! In my case, I use Cartes du Ciel.
Here's the instructions (I'd post screen captures, but I've never figured out how to do this in this forum):
First make sure you get your Bluetooth linked to the Bluestar (also make sure the batteries in the Bluestar are FRESH!)- this has never been a problem for anyone here. It's getting your app to see the connection. Read on:
Control Panel>All Control Panel Items>Devices and Printers
Scroll down to Unspecified Devices and locate Bluestar
Right Click on Bluestar and Choose Properties
Choose Hardware tab
You should see:
Standard Serial over Bluetooth Link (COM x) (x=current COM port assigned)- click on this line.
Choose Change Settings
Press the Port Settings Tab
Look for COM Port Number and change this to an unused one. I chose 10, but it shouldn't matter too much. (Note, mine said COM 4, 5, and 6 were in use. Your mileage may vary)
Now go into Cartes du Ciel and change the COM port to 10 (or whatever unused port you chose).
It should link now. Mine did.
Posted 12 July 2013 - 11:21 PM
If you are using another planetarium program, ymmv.
Posted 14 July 2013 - 03:57 PM
Posted 15 July 2013 - 10:14 PM
My first guess would be that Starry Nights and the ASCOM (assuming Starry Nights uses ASCOM?) drivers might need to be booted in Windows XP compatibility mode. Cartes runs just fine in Win 7 and Win8, but it seems that it's scope drivers do not. So, what you want to do is locate the Starry Nights icon on your desktop and right click on it. Next Choose the "Compatibility" tab, and tap the box for "Run this program in compatibility mode for:" and then choose Windows XP if it allows you to. Once set, exit out of this and boot Starry Nights from that icon and see if your Bluestar and scope can talk.
If not (I'm assuming you've got the Bluestar and your Bluetooth paired?), try changing the COM port to a different one and do this however it's done in Starry Nights as well so that the COM ports match.
If none of this works, try downloading Cartes du Ciel and the ASCOM drivers needed for your brand/model of scope (all free) and see if you can get them talking using the steps I used above. If you can get Cartes and your scope talking, you probably can figure out how to get Starry Nights talking to your scope as well. You might even decide to just use Cartes with your Bluestar!
Posted 21 July 2013 - 09:31 AM
I downloaded the ASCOM drivers. I right clicked on the SN icon and checked the XP compatibility mode. My laptop is paired with the Bluestar. However, when I try connecting to the telescope in SN it says there is no Celestron telescope. I will try using Cartes du Ciel but I prefer SN. I may stick with using a cable. On a positive note, the Bluestar works perfect with my Android Galaxy tab II. However, there should be a fix for the Bluestar without deleting bluetooth drivers and reinstalling older ones.
Posted 21 July 2013 - 02:58 PM
after writing the last post, I disabled my laptop's internal bluetooth and use my old bluetooth dongle. Windows 7 installed the drivers but it still didn't work. I decided to try installing the original drivers on the CD. It took a little playing with but it found the bluestar and paired and told me the com port. Starry Nights connected the telescope and works great! It even works with Celestron's Nexremote. One less cable. I was afraid that I was going to be forced pay another $150 for the Skyfi or Orion Starseek. These Bluestars are great when they work.
Posted 11 September 2013 - 01:10 AM
My new Asus laptop with Win8 and Bluestar wireless and Cartes du Ciel functioned perfectly all night under the stars last week.
It's a shame they stopped making this little device; it was spectacular! I love mine.