Opinion time - Choose between Tak EM200 & Mach1
Posted 18 May 2013 - 05:03 PM
Posted 18 May 2013 - 06:26 PM
Posted 18 May 2013 - 07:35 PM
I spoke with two owners who are very happy with it. I just installed it on my Mach 1 but haven't used it yet so I can't vouch and/or compare with the Tak.
Just something to consider tho.
Posted 18 May 2013 - 07:49 PM
Control the Tak mount with an ipod and Sky Safari. There is no need for a laptop. I control my Tak mount with a Samsung tablet and a bluetooth connection when I'm not imaging.
Posted 18 May 2013 - 08:07 PM
Andy, I saw the RAPAS and at $390+$80 (adapter), it's rather expensive. I think that puts even a used Mach1 at more than $7K - wow! That being said, I think the Mach1 is a one time buy, once you buy it, there is no looking back. I am not so sure about EM200 though, I am sure I will want to come back to the Mach1 at a later date, especially if I do upgrade the scope to something in the 130mm range.
Posted 18 May 2013 - 08:39 PM
Regarding goto on the Tak, I always used a laptop with mine, mostly because I wanted to use all the settings in the Temma ascom driver by Chuck Faranda. I don't think that Sky Safari has the same ability. I am thinking about setting limits, turning the mount off at a certain time, setting the autoguide speed and so on... However I have never used Sky Safari for goto's so my understanding might be wrong.
Posted 18 May 2013 - 09:18 PM
Given that the Mach1 carries more load, has PEC, better handset, etc. I'd go with the Mach1.
Oh wait.. that's what I did.
Seriously, the Mach1 has worm wheels the same diameter as those on the NJP. So it can potentially carry far more than the EM200, in spite of the - on paper - almost identical payload.
Posted 18 May 2013 - 09:31 PM
1. The EM-200 documentation is a xeroxed pile of 15 pages of badly translated text. I know GEMs are not the most complex thing in the word, but jeez. The Mach-1 documentation is three or four well written manuals, plus another one for the ASCOM driver.
2. The "meridian delay" feature, which allows the mount to track through the meridian without flipping is super useful if you are imaging. You can generally track from 2 hours east to 2 hours west of the meridian without flipping the mount if you plan things right. It's hard to understate how handy this is.
3. The hand controller allows for use without a computer, if you want.
4. If you do use a computer, the the ASCOM driver is great.
5. The new polar scope is probably as easy as the Tak. Even without the polar scope, the "quick drift" alignment is more time consuming than just looking through a polar scope, but once you learn it it's pretty easy to do. I could set up in my back yard in about 15min on average including putting the mount together.
I use my mount mostly for imaging, but it works just as well for casual or serious visual work. I get occasional compliments for my recent pictures, but I mostly give the credit to the mount. It makes my life easier in so many ways it's hard to list them all.
Posted 18 May 2013 - 10:11 PM
Same thing is for all my Tak scopes.
They do however perform very well.
One thing to consider if that if one ever needed service or parts, the AP would be much much easier to service.
Posted 18 May 2013 - 10:33 PM
But then again unless you buy used there are no more Mach1's to be had till 2014.
That said you can save big bucks on counterweights by using Meade LX80 counterweights..
Posted 18 May 2013 - 10:57 PM
Posted 19 May 2013 - 01:25 AM
I never owned a Mach 1, but I know some owners and they are all very positive.
Posted 19 May 2013 - 03:04 AM
That's true Orly! Did I tell you that?? LX80 cw's work perfectly on the Mach1!!
Posted 19 May 2013 - 03:07 AM
Posted 19 May 2013 - 09:54 AM
Posted 19 May 2013 - 11:29 AM
Note that the LX80 counterweights are only compatible with the Mach1 "thin" shaft - also for the AP400 and AP600 - and not with the optional "thick" shaft that is compatible with the CW shaft on the 900/1200, 1100/1600 mounts.
Like I said I was also faced with this quandary (EM200 vs Mach1). Had some exchanges with Jerry Lodriguss who is using an EM200. He found it to be overloaded with a C11, but Roland assures that a Mach1 will carry a C11 with ease.
Someone else on this forum claims a Mach1 can carry 100 lb for visual..
Overall, if you can tolerate the extra cost, the Mach1 is a much safer choice than an EM200. You are guaranteed great performance, I am not sure that is completely certain with an EM200 (a number of declination backlash adjustment threads on UncensoredTakGroup).
Posted 19 May 2013 - 02:59 PM
Posted 19 May 2013 - 05:22 PM
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Posted 19 May 2013 - 11:02 PM
"DwightJ" - there seem to be two schools of thought with the Tak not having PEC - some say you just don't need it! Of course, never having used one, I can't tell, but I am hoping that is true!!
That being said, I am still leaning towards a Mach1.
Posted 19 May 2013 - 11:25 PM
The Mach1 is +/- 3.5" rated, and a good PEMPro run will drop that to sub-1" peak-to-peak (I got 0.42" p-p on mine).
No comparison, if you ask me. I also left some tips on your wanted thread.