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#1 dhaval

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 10:06 PM

Finally pulled the trigger on the Mach 1 (and since pulling the trigger, it has been raining in Austin - with no end to the cloudy nights in sight any time soon - but I am hoping I can get to use it sometime soon)!

I have high expectations of this mount - I have ordered the RAPAS and the hi res rotating pier base, although I am not sure if I should have or not.

The tripod for the mount is the AP/Baader hardwood tripod and the mount sits solid on it! I think I will stick with this particular tripod for a little bit (I have about 23 lbs of telescope/camera/FW/Filters on the mount/tripod).

First impressions - This looks so solid - better than the G11 that I used to have, even on the wooden tripod. I was worried about it being stable, but this looks really solid. I am hoping that will truly be the case - I will primarily be imaging with this setup, so hopefully, I don't have to change the tripod. The construction is so very well thought out - can hardly seem to find a fault with how it's designed and made. The only thing that I find "odd" is the hanging GTO box - I think that should somehow be fixed to the mount - but I can deal with that bit of oddity.

I am hoping for some clear skies soon!

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Dhaval

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#2 dhaval

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 10:06 PM

And one more pic -

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#3 Gregg Carter

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 10:12 PM

Beautiful.

#4 David Ault

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 10:24 PM

Dhaval,

Congratulations on the new mount. It looks like a beauty. I was wondering who purchased some nice equipment in my area. My lawn and water bill thank you ;)

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 10:43 PM

David,
So good to hear from you! I am hoping we can meet up at the next members star party - hopefully, I can make it out there and it is not cloudy!

Dhaval

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 10:54 PM

Dhaval,

I'd would be great to meet you out there. Although you should expect a fair amount of drool to accumulate on your new mount ;)

Regards,
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Posted 25 May 2013 - 10:57 PM

Its a great mount. Dont worry about your upgrade purchases, they are actual upgrades IMO, especially the hi res rotating pier.

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 12:48 AM

Congrats! You will love the Mach1, it's am amazing mount. Since I bought it I essentially stopped using my other mount. I also use the RAPAS and i think it's totally worth it.

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 01:57 AM

You're going to enjoy using the Mach 1. I ordered the same two items as well. I just finished setting up the RAPAS last night, I'm looking forward to testing the accuracy next time out. I know it's going to save me setup time.

The new rotating base was installed immediately at purchase and I'm glad I did it. The operation is ultra smooth and there are no bolts to lock down. The benefits will be seen at the RAPAS.

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 10:25 AM

Congrat's on the new Mach1 and Planet tripod, a great matchup and looks beautiful in you image. I agree the rotating base a real upgrade, though once you are aligned it doesnt matter, it's during alignment it really helps. Look forward to your comments.

#11 Ron (Lubbock)

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 10:27 PM

That must be one heck of a mount, because it's been cloudy and windy every night for a week up here in Lubbock too! I've been looking at the Astro-Physics mounts recently too, so let us know how it goes.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 10:34 PM

Ron (and David too) - I apologize folks! The mount obviously looks beautiful!! I believe next week has a few days without clouds - by which time I should get my "upgrades" as well!!

CS,
Dhaval

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 11:46 PM

Very jealous of your mount. I'd love to have a Mach1.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 04:09 PM

Congrats! I just received my Mach1 and all of its goodies yesterday afternoon - rain forecast for the next 10 days and it has of course been raining for about 6 already. I hate MN!

I can't wait to use it and look forward to hearing what you think.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 06:30 PM

it's the real deal and i'm very glad i upgraded. it "just works".

edit: the new az plate is a must-have. it's actually hard to get aligned with the old plate as when you loosen the lock screws, it wobbles a little bit.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 06:39 PM

sweet!!

glad you didn't go with that meade 850! It wouldn't have "just worked". And other 850 owners are jealous of your mount! i'm jealous! lol

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 06:49 PM

It's a nice mount. But keep your thumb over the stop button on slews until you really know what you're doing.

-Rich

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 08:22 PM

Thanks all for the nice words. I can't wait to use mine - of course, its going to be cloudy over the next few days, but hopefully next week there are a few days when I can take it for a test drive.

Rich - please elaborate - what does that mean?

Thanks,
Dhaval

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:07 PM

Cant wait to see the imanges on the night sky and PE data

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:15 PM

The mount needs a very specific order of operations to align it. If the geometry isn't right when it attempts a sync or when you go between steps in the polar alignment routine, it is possible for it to get an indeterminate solution on its geometry. What that means is the next time you slew, it will attempt an underhand pass, which will cause a collision. So, keep a finger near the stop button. Read the manuals, and follow them literally.

I apologize for how scary that sounds- in practice, it is so quick and nimble to do anything you ask, it's easy to forget this is possible.

-Rich

Thanks all for the nice words. I can't wait to use mine - of course, its going to be cloudy over the next few days, but hopefully next week there are a few days when I can take it for a test drive.

Rich - please elaborate - what does that mean?

Thanks,
Dhaval



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:18 PM

Bigj, just do a search. The AP Mach 1 GTO is one of the best characterized mounts made, so you don't have to wait for raw data to crunch through.

-Rich

Cant wait to see the imanges on the night sky and PE data



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:22 PM

It's a nice mount. But keep your thumb over the stop button on slews until you really know what you're doing.

-Rich


Great suggestion! Even when you know what you're doing I suggest keeping your thumb on that stop button :)
I even reduced my slew speed to 600x just to be safe.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:32 PM

I crashed my AP 130 EDFGT into the pier that way :-/ It had always seemed to know what it was doing. And it *almost* made it.

AP had a paint kit, though you had to know where to look to find the scrape mark (the paint is kind of odd stuff- sort of like painting by dabbing on yogurt).

If Bigj wants a link to get started:

http://www.cloudynig...hp?item_id=1925

-Rich

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:18 PM

I'm a bit puzzled by the doom and gloom around mount crashing etc :)

The Mach1 is probably the simplest darn mount there is to set up (in my experience). You just point it to a star opposite where the scope is (i.e. not on the same side of the meridian), sync, and you're off!

The only case I see where there might be mount confusion is if you sync on a star on the same side of the meridian after power on, but the manual explicitly says not to do that.

In any case I've never had a mount crash, and I barely read the manual.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:53 PM

There are other ways of causing that. One of them happens with the polar alignment routine, and I haven't quite figured out what causes it.

-Rich






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