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#126 panhard

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 07:18 PM

Thomas I removed your link from the above post. First of all it didn't work, secondly, it was to long. Here is how to create a more suitable link. It is also a good idea to check the link before posting it. Thanks
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#127 ThomasM

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 12:57 AM

Herb, thanks a lot for your helpful comment

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#128 RichD

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 04:45 AM

Graham, It's partly the "honeymoon" phase with the Nikons and partly the fact that I have been fortunate to have a few work trips and holidays lately in quite dark sky areas and have taken the Nikons because of their center focus so I can use them by day.

I recently had an evening with the Fujis and I won't be selling them anytime soon, but right now the nikons are definitely my most used pair. I can't find one area to criticise with the nikons, they are as close to perfect as any bino I have used. I do like the slightly wider AFOV in the Fujis however - it is slightly wider and wonderful for sweeping through the MW.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 05:11 AM

Oberwerk 15x70 Ultra on a UA Unimount.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 06:16 AM

No problem Thomas, glad I could help you out.

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 09:37 AM

Rich,

Ok - obviously you're not suffering from long ER black outs. Is your preference for the Nikons largely because you're happier with their 4.2mm EP rather than the 5mm EP of the Fujis?

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Posted 03 July 2013 - 10:47 AM

No, the ER blackouts are not a problem for me - I have very deep set eyes and use all my binoculars with the eye cups fully rolled down (even the nikon). I never get black outs, and reading around I see so many have problems with it with the eyecups up that I can only think I must be a bit of a freak in that regard!

And you are spot on about the EP, at 5mm the Fuji is just starting to show a tiny bit of astigmatism, even in the center of the field. I know that it's my eyes causing the problem. At 4.2mm the nikon is just a tad sharper and it is noticeable. I notice an improvement in sharpness again when I use my 8x30 Fuji FMT, so obviously my eyes are not great. But i'm splitting hairs here, the fuji 10x50 is an incredible bino that i'll likely never let go.

If you are thinking of getting one, I would not hesitate to recommend it. I bought online in the US and imported, saving around 150 UKP. The nikon I got second hand at over half the new price and to be honest, all things considered, it's the better all round buy. There is nothing it doesn't do well. If you think you will be using the bino by day, hold out for a used nikon 12x50.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 09:50 AM

Rich

On the night sky, well, lets just say they have resulted in my fuji 10x50 fmt gathering dust.


I'm amazed to hear that after your fulsome praise of your fujis in the past.

I was also interested to hear it as I'm considering buying a pair of fujis from the US.

Graham


Hi Graham. I had a great night exploring Cyg at the vertex last night. The Fujinon 10x50 FMT-SX never fail to impress me with how good the view is. They're great astronomical binoculars and a real pleasure to use. They're definitely keepers.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:08 PM

Zeiss 15x60 B/GA T*

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 11:34 AM

Fujinon FMT-SX 10x70

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 07:56 AM

Nikon 12x50 SE
Nikon 10x42 SE for dual use (day/night)
Leica 10x42 BA for dual use during travel

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 12:44 AM

Well, according to this poll, the clear winner is the Canon 15x50 IS.

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 04:57 AM

My favorites:

I recently bought a Zero-gravity type lounge chair and have been enjoying hand holding my Carton "Prisma" 20x80s. Laying back with the eyecups resting on my eyes, I can hold them quite steady. These are older Japanese binos. They claim a 3.5 degree TFoV, I can see both M10 and M12 at the very edge of the field, they are separated by 3 degrees 16 minutes, pretty close to the 3.5 degrees.

Lots of neat stuff to see at 20x that are not easily seen with 10x or 11x binoculars. For example, M56 and M57 are quite obvious, even Saturn can be seen to have rings.

They have stood the test of time, they are still well collimated and sharp. I am not sure how old they are, I am guessing 20 years or more, they appear essentially identical to my 11x80s which I have had for close to 15 years and those were far from new when I bought them.. I am sure with modern coatings they would be brighter but them seem bright enough and quite robust.

These are not the most practical binoculars but they certainly provide some wonderful views...

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 11:44 AM

I use a zero-gravity chair with a Unimount parallelogram from Universal Astronomics. I mount up a variety of binoculars
--from 7x35 to 25x100--and just relax and enjoy the night sky.

But, I must confess that my often quick peek is to handhold a 10x70 laying in a lounge chair or standing with my elbows propped on a car roof.

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Posted 15 July 2013 - 01:39 PM

Looks like our best astro binocular is the one each of us have....
Probably it would be better to ask what is the best astro binocular you have used, doesn't have to be yours, and in parallel, just to know different opinions, which one you consider is the best astro binocular, even if you have not use it ever, but you think it may be and the reason...

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 05:32 PM

I think the responses are going be all over the place....... :)


an accurate prediction

my count-so far

brands-many with fuji, canon, nikon leading

size-
30s-3
40s-10
50s-21
60s-12
70s-13
80s-3
100s-7
110s-2
150s-2
IS-7, mainly 15x50s

we are a diverse group but 50s lead
handheld > tripod
I am surprised that IS did as well as it did, but high mag and handheld benefits from IS

Although the Zeiss 20x60 only got one vote, it may be the dark horse here (if only $5000 cheaper) :question:

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 09:23 PM

Although the Zeiss 20x60 only got one vote, it may be the dark horse here (if only $5000 cheaper) :question:

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BIG if. The Zeiss 20x60S is on my short list. But it's been there a L-O-N-G time! :sleepy:

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 06:36 AM

Although the Zeiss 20x60 only got one vote, it may be the dark horse here (if only $5000 cheaper) :question:

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BIG if. The Zeiss 20x60S is on my short list. But it's been there a L-O-N-G time! :sleepy:


me too-if only $1000-2000 I would get it, but at $6600 (yes, I have checked), no way

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 04:20 AM

Me too ed

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 05:02 AM

Although the Zeiss 20x60 only got one vote, it may be the dark horse here (if only $5000 cheaper) :question:

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BIG if. The Zeiss 20x60S is on my short list. But it's been there a L-O-N-G time! :sleepy:


me too-if only $1000-2000 I would get it, but at $6600 (yes, I have checked), no way

edj


You may be able to fulfill your dream in the $1000-2000 bracket. Just compare the views of the Zeiss 20x60 with those of the Nikon 18x70. I am glad I did. Saved me some money and got better views of the stars. The only downside is the necessary tripod, the Zeiss can free you of that. But the views? The Nikons!

YMMV of course.

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 05:37 AM

for me the BIG advantage of the tripod is keeping the object in the FOV (other than earth's rotation) for repeated views or sharing the view with others
you just cannot do that with handheld

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 05:46 AM

I have seen the most with my Zhumell 25x100 and have been satisfied with the view, so I will go with that one.

Caveat: mechanically, while these are constructed of quality materials, they require some tweaking/upkeep to ensure good operation.


Completely agree, the Zhumell 25x100 are GREAT binocs, but you have to be on your game! :)

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 12:23 PM

for me the BIG advantage of the tripod is keeping the object in the FOV (other than earth's rotation) for repeated views or sharing the view with others
you just cannot do that with handheld

edj


Agreed edj :cool:

Just had to put a downside on record for the Nikons :lol:

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 01:02 AM

My vote is for the Canon 12x36 IS.

I also have 15x50IS, which are wonderful, and obviously more powerful,
but I like the lightness of the 12x36 IS.

I also have the 10x30 IS, which I prefer for a lot of terrestrial, because they focus closer than the 12x36.

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 06:04 AM

for me the BIG advantage of the tripod is keeping the object in the FOV (other than earth's rotation) for repeated views or sharing the view with others


Repeated views isn't much of an issue for me; once I've found something the first time I can almost always follow the same star-hop quickly and effortlessly a second time.

However, the point about sharing views is indisputable. Describing your own star-hop to someone else can be really frustrating.






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