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#1 teddyk1

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 02:41 PM

I am working on this combination ;
AP600E with AP encoders hooked up to argo navis , thru encoder cables.
Argo Navis serial port to SkyFi wireless modele.
Ipad or macbook pro running Skysafari Pro

I have all the components
Before I start reading the mountain of paperwork to make this happen
Did anyone have a similar configuration that can share some input?
Problems or concerns they gad with the use .

Thank you in advance
Some picture will be posted this evening

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 01:05 AM

I have done with with my 600E QMD. Connect the encoders to your DSC box (I used a homemade one, and a Tangent Instruments), then serial port from the Tangent box to SkySafari (via a SkyWire).

For the homemade DSC, it had Bluetooth and I connected it directly to SkySafari on my Android phone (iOS devices don't support bluetooth serial so that won't work).

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 07:52 AM

It rained hard last night so working in the OB was out of the question
Today is a very nice day
I hope to get this all working and post some pics of the ports
Hope this all worlds somehow
I am hoping all the equipment communicates well with each other

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 04:51 PM

Well here is the connection setup
First; Mounted the Argo Navis on the leg of the tripod

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 04:56 PM

The AP encoders are 10000 tic encoders connected with the cable to the Argo Navis

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 04:58 PM

The encoders port of the Argo Navis

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 04:59 PM

Then The Wireless SkyFi module to the Argo Navis serial #1 port

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:05 PM

OK so the first connection did not go well
Since I have skysafari pro on the macbook and my Android I decided to connect to the Android device first
NOT recognized WIFI Network
The SKyfi is recognized on my macbook but not on my Android phone

Research...........

Adhock WIFI networks NOT recognized on Android devices
HMM... This should be in bold print on Southern Stars website when you are purchasing the Telecsope enabled apps.
This can be worked thru but later on that

Email to southern stars confirm it will not work unless I connect and join a existing network (which requires firmware I dont have on my Skyfi) or Root my device (my first choice)

Problem #2 My Mackbook connects to Skyfi but does not have Argo Navis in the pull down menu to choose a connection with
Soooo ... once again email to Southernstars.
Thanks goodness Bill is quick to reply with suggestions
He suggests these configuration..........

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:08 PM

Gary from Wld card Innovations replies with this recommendation


Gary Kopff here from Wildcard Innovations, the manufacturers
of the Argo Navis DTC.

In extensive testing we have performed, Argo Navis operates completely
reliably with Sky Safari.

I will provide a summary here for future readers plus some tips
which may prove useful not only for Sky Safari users who
connect to Argo Navis but also to users who connect to other
devices such as real Meade and Celestron telescopes.

On the Argo Navis side, determine which serial connector you
will be using, either SERIAL 1 or SERIAL 2.
Using the MODE SETUP, SETUP SERIAL dialog for that port, select
a BAUD rate of 9600 and a STARTUP command of meade.
EXIT out of the SETUP SERIAL menu so that any changes are saved
in non-volatile memory. Now power the Argo Navis unit OFF and then
ON. This will then ensure that the protocol selected in the
STARTUP menu then starts on that serial port.

On the Sky Safari side, use the Telescope Setup... menu.
On the Connection pulldown select your serial device.
We recommend the Keyspan USA-19HS USB Serial Adapter.
On Readout Rate, choose as desired (we use 10 per second).
*Do not check* Set Time & Location. Argo Navis is designed
to invalidate any alignment should the date, time or location change
and setting this box will cause Sky Safari to transit these
parameters to the Argo Navis which is not desired.
Argo Navis has its own time-of-day clock backed up with a lithium
coin cell.
For Scope Type: select Meade LX-200 Classic.
For Mount Type: on your Dob, choose Alt-Azimuth Fork.
Then select the Connect button at the bottom right of the menu.
After a second or so, the Scope Control dialog should pop up and
Sky Safari will play a connect chime. The bulls-eye target should
also appear on screen.

We have tested the above continually operating for over a 100 hours
at a time and it provides for a completely reliable connectivity
solution. If powered by a reliable power source, no resets or
loss of alignment should ever occur. If the unit had been aligned
and if after selecting Connect and then choosing an object
in MODE CATALOG a NOT ALIGNED message appears, this will because
the Set Time and Location check box in Sky Safari has been
inadvertently set. If the unit is powered by internal batteries
and the unit performs a power on reset or multiple power on
resets, this is simply an indication that the internal AA cells
are depleted and require replacing.

When using the Meade protocol, Sky Safari assumes you are connected
to a real Meade telescope which has a fixed Baud rate of 9600.
Though Argo Navis can operate with higher Baud rates, the Sky Safari
dialog has no selection for changing it and implicitly assumes it
is 9600. So you should therefore choose 9600 on the Argo Navis side.

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 11:50 PM

So tonight I went thru all the initial setup of the Argo Navis
Added the recommended settings on the Argo Navis side and Skysafari in my macbook pro
The software has a continous connecting message but does not connect

I am out of time for tonite but I did not do a star alignment on the argo Navis before trying to connect to Skysafari
I wonder if that has anything to do with it

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 07:13 AM

You have to be fully setup and aligned before you can connect b

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 12:54 AM

So I see
First the connecting issue was due to wrong IP address
Now thats fixed
Still not connecting to the scope

I decided to go over the whole initial setup of the argo again
I must be missing something as the pointing accuracy is way off also
I thought my encoders were 10K encoders
maybe they are not and thats throwing off the reading

Well back to the drawing board






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