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#1 kbastro

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 10:01 PM

It's a question that I have a hard time with,,,
love my mounts and I am always excited to get new ones (over time), same for the scopes,,
I am not sure what excites me more.. a new scope or a new mount? either way it's still the kid looking in at the candy store.
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#2 Jon Isaacs

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 10:09 PM

I like scopes on manual tracking alt-az mounts so I would have to say that I am more excited by a new scope than a new mount.

Of course, with a Dob, it's a package.

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 10:44 PM

A scope will get you through times with no mount better than a mount will get you through times with no scope . :)

Or is that the other way around ? :crazy:

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 11:50 PM

most scopes are white and boring. like sid vicious said," boring, boring, boring, scopes are boring"

now the M-uno has some style.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:41 AM

Interesting . What kind of money do they get for that thing ?

#6 oo_void

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 03:34 AM

Too much. ;)

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 07:14 AM

http://www.iankingim...hp?category=177

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 08:00 AM

now the M-uno has some style.

No doubt about it; Italian industrial design has panache unequaled by anyone.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 08:38 AM

Being an aircraft mechanic and total gearhead I appreciate complex mechanical things. A telescope mount with all the precision gears, motors, and machined surfaces is poetry in motion. Watching a high speed slew complete with the sounds of calibrated gears and motors will bring a smile to my face quickly.

Some of the most amazing mounts in my opinion are the monsters that RCOS builds. Check out these videos of them in action during tests:

RC Optical Systems 24" Afocal RC with 10" Acquisition Scope, Coudé Path, and Slip Ring:
http://www.rcoptical.../bdvideoweb.mov

RCOS 0.81m Ritchey-Chrétien Telescope and Equatorial Fork Mount:
http://www.rcoptical...l Mount web.mov

A good mount is essential for astrophotography, tracking moving objects accurately, and being able to repeatedly see the same section of sky on any given night. I am way more excited about the craftsmanship and precision of a finely machined mount than I am of a precision telescope sitting in a homely wooden box.

obin ;)

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 11:53 AM

Being an aircraft mechanic and total gearhead I appreciate complex mechanical things. A telescope mount with all the precision gears, motors, and machined surfaces is poetry in motion. Watching a high speed slew complete with the sounds of calibrated gears and motors will bring a smile to my face quickly.

Some of the most amazing mounts in my opinion are the monsters that RCOS builds. Check out these videos of them in action during tests:

RC Optical Systems 24" Afocal RC with 10" Acquisition Scope, Coudé Path, and Slip Ring:
http://www.rcoptical.../bdvideoweb.mov

RCOS 0.81m Ritchey-Chrétien Telescope and Equatorial Fork Mount:
http://www.rcoptical...l Mount web.mov

A good mount is essential for astrophotography, tracking moving objects accurately, and being able to repeatedly see the same section of sky on any given night. I am way more excited about the craftsmanship and precision of a finely machined mount than I am of a precision telescope sitting in a homely wooden box.

obin ;)

OK, I want a mount that needs a flashing light on it so you know to get the hell out the way when it's slewing!

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:19 PM

OK, I want a mount that needs a flashing light on it so you know to get the hell out the way when it's slewing!


LOL that thing is serious isn't it!?! It slews so fast and smooth you could probably swat a mosquito with it too! Admit that if you could afford to buy and house that monster it would be in your backyard right now. You could do a Messier Marathon in record breaking time.

obin :lol:

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:47 PM

It's a question that I have a hard time with,,,
love my mounts and I am always excited to get new ones (over time), same for the scopes,,
I am not sure what excites me more.. a new scope or a new mount? either way it's still the kid looking in at the candy store.
kb


For me its neither the scope or a mount but how they work together as a well orchestrated symphony that excites me...

A mediocre OTA on a super mount gets you mediocre results!

A super OTA on a mediocre mount gets you mediocre results!

Put an optically top notch telescope on a well engineered, stable, super performing mount and that is what gets me excited...

So far I've managed two such excellent setups out of three, the third is a project in process causing much frustration at this time...

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 01:39 PM

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 03:03 PM

Definitely scope for me.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 03:59 PM

My first scope had a wobbly mount and I hated that mount. When I finally built my own, I went for overkill. So I like both. Nothing like great optics on a steady, driven mount.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 04:28 PM

The scope. I can't see much looking through the mount.

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 04:42 PM

Its all about the glass. ;)

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 04:24 AM

Hi,
I like mounts. I like tinkering and adjusting them to get the best performance. Spot on goto's and really low PE. The only problem is my most recent mount is performing so well out of the box there's nothing to work on. Now if Celestron would just release the StarSense I would have another toy to add to my mount.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 06:26 AM

The scope. I can't see much looking through the mount.


You won't be able to see much trough the scope either if the mount is shaking all around or doesn't have smooth movements. The mount is at least half as important. :grin:

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 09:42 AM

I don't know for sure...you tell me. :lol: Mike

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 10:42 AM

I always found the mounts of HUGE professional telescopes astounding. Many tonnes (hundreds?) of machinery and optics moving with such precision. It's amazing! An absolute triump of engineering!

Now, as to those flashy, Italian mounts: Prissy-looking. Mounts for "girly-men!" ;) ;)

(It's just a joke. :) )

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:51 PM

The mount!,100%.

I have a 16 inch ASA Astrograph on a Paramount ME.
The mount: excellent mount with excellent build quality even the inside looks great , very good and complete software package.

The ASA astrograph: for Euro 18000,- pricetag very poor overall quality ; dirty mirror at delivery, loose decoration rings, loose black velvet inside (glued to tight), unstable focusser software, zero information about wiring, handling, cleaning and collimation at delivery, sandwich "carbonfiber" tube: the carbon fiber is paperthin, average mirror quality, incomplete at delivery (no excuse or explanation), the 1.8X Barlow (1150,- euro) has poor internal blackening... I'm very dissatisfied in ASA.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 01:30 PM

The ASA astrograph: for Euro 18000,- pricetag very poor overall quality ; dirty mirror at delivery, loose decoration rings, loose black velvet inside (glued to tight), unstable focusser software, zero information about wiring, handling, cleaning and collimation at delivery, sandwich "carbonfiber" tube: the carbon fiber is paperthin, average mirror quality, incomplete at delivery (no excuse or explanation), the 1.8X Barlow (1150,- euro) has poor internal blackening...



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Posted 08 July 2013 - 02:41 PM

Scopes excite me. Mounts don't.

#25 Doug D.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 03:37 PM

No doubt, I would have said scopes when I started out but after many years now of actually using scopes - I have to say that mounts have become pretty exciting. I am of the opinion that in practice, a given scope is only going to be as good as the mount it rides on.






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