July 17 - High Energy Activity near Maginus A
Posted 25 July 2013 - 08:08 PM
Posted 25 July 2013 - 11:53 PM
That is an interesting shot!
Here's for reference, a pic I took 11/23/12:
Posted 26 July 2013 - 12:57 AM
Thanks for the reference pic it lines up nicely.
Posted 26 July 2013 - 01:45 PM
Welcome to CN. Your image of the crater Maginus does look interesting! It would be great to see your animation of this event and or the additional images you have. You could send your images and info to ALPO - Lunar section for some feedback on what this could possibly be. Landslide along the crater wall? Impact from a large meteorite? Volcanic activity? Though I don't think there are any domes in the area but I will need to look into this. Recently I began observing the Moon more and have been using some new Lunar atlases. I'll check out this area the next opportunity I get.
Thanks for posting. Dean
Posted 26 July 2013 - 03:31 PM
Posted 26 July 2013 - 05:42 PM
Posted 27 July 2013 - 07:08 AM
Posted 27 July 2013 - 08:59 AM
The evidence when considered at face value which consist of 10 frames over ~ 1 second period placed in a series show what appears to be a massive discharge of dust. The discharge is quit visible at the crater entrance of what is believed to be Maginus A. There is also indication of the physical impact this discharge has on the surrounding area as rocks are being visibly thrown considerable distances.
In as far as Transient Light and Shadow affects, I'm not sure how that would be applied to the amount of energy required to push say 1k lbs or more of dust 500-5000 ft upward under what ever gravitational constant that exists at that location. Nor am I sure where the idea of a plume being blown downwind came from. The only observation that can be made is that it was blown upward. I use the definition of plume as follows; In Ecology - A space in air, water, or soil containing pollutants released from a point source. Realizing of course this is literally a Space in Space rather than air (LOL).
After observing the evidence many times I find it is difficult to refute that it is strongly suggesting/indicating there was significant energy involved in this event the question is, where did it come from??????
I think it is totally neat no matter what and I appreciate Your Input. http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif
Also I am working to get the images posted here in someway. Unfortunately the site does not support any movie formats for upload. http://www.cloudynig...icons/frown.gif
Posted 27 July 2013 - 09:44 AM
Posted 27 July 2013 - 10:37 AM
I can't imagine what would the point be in trying to photoshop a lunar event like this. What purpose would it serve? My only purpose is to share not to deceive!
I think it'd help if you posted your entire vid of this segment. The plume being blown downwind analogy was based on your comment that it was plume appearing. That it was writhing like a hose would only happen if their were an atmosphere to move it or equally unlikely that it was a venting off of gas and dust through a fissure that was undergoing change to send it in varying directions. At this point it could just be a processing error. The entire vid of this segment submitted to the imaging forum for review would be the best way forward from here. Its also not too unbelievable that a persons first post whose an "amature" troublemaker could have just photoshoped such a contrivance for the sake of a troll.
Beyond that to say that an amateur "troublemaker" posted it, apparently I'll have to demonstrate in some way my professional abilities to cause trouble. BACKGROUND - The Nic comes from my day job as Compliance Enforcement, I'm always in the middle of sorting out and fixing some major issue thus being viewed as a professional "Trouble Maker". At the end of the day though its all about the facts.
If you like PM me about the Lunar pic sequence availability.
Posted 27 July 2013 - 11:58 AM
very interesting, If it is a cloud, would that not suggest a "non" vacuum area?
Posted 27 July 2013 - 12:24 PM
I'm not sure what the actual absolute pressure is on the surface I have heard there is some atmosphere, if so the pressure would be greater than 0 PSIA or 29.92" Hg (complete vacuum) at the surface. Even if it were 5 psia that is little resistance to the potential required to create a cloud of that magnitude. May have to do some rudimentary calculation on what it might take.
Posted 27 July 2013 - 01:07 PM
Posted 27 July 2013 - 02:54 PM
Posted 27 July 2013 - 02:55 PM
Posted 27 July 2013 - 03:13 PM
I would agree looking at only the small pics does not necessarily provide clarity. Though I am willing to provide, the technical limitations of this site prevents uploading the original images as they are over 2 meg ea. The area covered by the originals can be seen in the compressed master at the link above. If there is real interest in examining a copy of the originals please PM me. Also i have found using the Picasa viewer allows an expanded view without excess distortion. Hope this helps.
Posted 27 July 2013 - 03:26 PM
Thanks for the info!!
Posted 27 July 2013 - 05:38 PM
Posted 27 July 2013 - 11:57 PM
I'm wondering if this was an impact event. Those first few frames show a condensed, bright region (suggestive of an impact?) with a dissipating plume spreading outward in the subsequent frames. Some craters and features were obscured, then re-appear. Most bizarre!
We really need to re-visit this crater next month and see if there is any noticeable difference.
Posted 28 July 2013 - 12:40 AM
Don't think there is too much seeing/lighting variation, because the outlying craters remain fairly consistent.
Fascinating! Great work Mark!
Posted 28 July 2013 - 01:03 AM
I'm getting tired of the troll-like answers you are providing , as I suspect is everyone else ...
Posted 28 July 2013 - 01:41 AM
Posted 28 July 2013 - 10:27 AM
1 WMV format video consisting of three sets of 10 frames.
Set 1 from a distance with cropped edges, 1 Close Zoom and Cropped then repeated. Stop the video on the Close Zoom and Crop for great detail of the discharge.
Also I found some reference material that may point to an exact location of the discharge. I'll post later today. Sorry I'm slow, this stuff is a bit labor intensive.
I must thank those that have taken a serious interest in this unusual lunar event. Your efforts to validate and understand what actually occurred will ultimately help everyone.
Thanks For your patients!!!