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#26 StrangeDejavu

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Posted 27 July 2013 - 11:25 AM

it won't be your only purchase, that's for sure.


So true. I started out with binoculars to "test the waters" and see if I would actually like astronomy. It wasn't until the Total Lunar Eclipse on Dec 21st, 2010 that I realized I really wanted a telescope. I talked myself into an Omni XLT 102 after a while, and I learned a LOT with this scope. I learned that I am very sensitive to CA. I also discovered how fun the pursuit of the Messier objects are, so I bought a 10" Dob. Then comes the filters, the eyepieces, the solar film for my refractor. As you discover your habits and favorite objects, you'll begin personalizing and buying to fit your needs. After all I have, i'm now in the market for a 4" APO for Grab and Go and quick peeks; there's always something to buy. :waytogo:

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Posted 27 July 2013 - 02:55 PM

One piece of advice I don't see mentioned yet: Get a Telrad!

I am a beginner w/ a Z8 and a very dark home base. I opted for the $600 bundle mainly for the Z100 eyepiece, which I do probably use more than any other EP. But the Telrad that came with the bundle is essential for me. I fumbled with just he RACI finder for the first few nights of viewing, not understanding what the Telrad was going to do for me. When I finally stuck the Telrad on the scope, my ability to find DSOs went up 1000%. I seldom use anything else.

Hayneedle sells the Telrad for about $40, and there is at least one other similar product that does about the same job. Information is pretty to find on laser finders here and elsewhere.

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Posted 27 July 2013 - 06:02 PM

Lol... I've heard that from another on here who highly recommended that.I will be sure to check it out and do so.I love being able to get experienced input without having to do trial and error too much! Thank you... :question: :jump:

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Posted 27 July 2013 - 06:26 PM

I could not survive without my Telrad.

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Posted 27 July 2013 - 07:29 PM

+1!

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Posted 27 July 2013 - 09:01 PM

Watched the demo on YouTube. Looks really good! I like it.

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Posted 27 July 2013 - 09:32 PM

Sorry to but in, good informative reply's and also gives me some new targets.

So Jeff, you saw the ISS through your scope and a Dob at that...Wow. Did you see any shape to it? I sure would like to try that in my 8" SCT. I think it will track it to, so need to look into it.

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Hey Bob,

Oh yeah.. ISS looks pretty good, depending on it's pass. You can see the solar array panels and everything. it takes some practice do it manually. But I find it easy to do with a Dob, years ago I use to use my classic LX10 Meade 8"sct with a video camera. I used a PVC pipe attached to the OTA to guide/follow lol. The footage wasn't the best, very shacky, but I was able to capture some freez frames. Unfortunately those images are gone due to my apartment being broken in too, they took my laptop back 2007.

There is a few programs out there to use on goto scopes, but I think your LS8 has that built in?

Pretty fun viewing satellites, iss and hst.. I have a lot of apps and software and online sites I use but lately I just been using Satellite Safari, great app by the way. :)

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Posted 27 July 2013 - 09:35 PM

I could not survive without my Telrad.


wow can't believe I didn't mention the Telrad :foreheadslap: yep yep.. Telrad is great.

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Posted 27 July 2013 - 11:54 PM

You can see the ISS with the 8" dob?

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 12:01 AM

Also, in my searching the websites for info and pricing, I see a "focus mask" is it just for AP? What is its purpose? Just curious. :shrug:

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 12:04 AM

Also, in my searching the websites for info and pricing, I see a "focus mask" is it just for AP? What is its purpose? Just curious. :shrug:


Indeed, it's an AP toy. You can read more here if you're curious how it works.

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 01:03 AM

Thank you, Mitch.

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 09:30 AM

Hey Jeff,

Cool that you can see panels ect. I believe my LS8 does have a satellite tracking mode and will even set off an alarm to start tracking it. I'll have to do some research on this so I can find some. The ISS moves pretty fast across the sky. What overall EP and power do you use? I would think medium to low with a wide FOV might help?

Thanks,

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 07:27 PM

Hey Bob,

I'm not familiar with the LS and yes depending on altitude of Satellites they can move pretty fast. I was tracking a R/B "space junk" a few nights ago it was moving along very slow. It's really fun, there is s lot of Satellites and space junk up there, give it ago test it on some satellites that way when you get a nice ISS pass you will have it down.

Lately I have been using my Hyperion zoom 8-24mm EP, that took a while to get use to as well. I would have it at 24-20mm to get the objects in view and with one hand on the tube I would guide/follow and with other hand zoom in and out with the Hyperion. :) Trust me it's harder at higher magnificents lol. I have had it at 8mm "150" on the ISS and get awesome view of it, but it's easy to lose it at that high of mag. But I will just zoom back out to get it back in my view, what I do before chasing objects I will set my focus sharp as I can get it at 8mm "150" that way when I'm zooming in and out it will be in close focus. :)

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 09:16 PM

Welcome to CN!

thats a good trick jeff with the zoom ill have to try that!

regarding the focus mask, its not just for astrophotos. Sometimes it can be difficult getting perfect focus especially on certain objects or if your scope has a longer settle time (time it takes to stop shaking after you touch it). Been meaning to get or make one sometime!

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 09:42 PM

Jeff, Were you using the z8 to see the ISS? I didn't see if you were.

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 10:34 PM

cool Jeff. Will have to look into getting one of those down the road.

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 11:00 PM

Cool thanks guys. :)

Yes I use my Z8, it's a lot better then when I use to use my Classic Meade 8" SCT.

Rob, I bet it will look sweet in your 10" Meade LB. :) Also look in to some apps like Satellite Safari or just use the online data. I just prefer using the app so I can see the paths live so I can get my scope ready. :)

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 01:16 AM

Now you have me looking at images of the iss on the internet!Lol... I did find a tracking site that you put in your zip code or city, and they give info on its track and visibility. Jeff, what is "hst"?
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Posted 29 July 2013 - 01:24 AM

If you have an iPhone or Droid, you'd love ISS Spotter. It allows you to track the ISS and create alarms for the best passes that month. For example, the app says on August 3rd 9:47PM EST the ISS will pass over my location, SW heading NE with magnitude of -3.5, making the pass a 3 out of 3 stars. The alarm will go off on your phone 5 minutes prior so you can get the scope aimed at that part of th sky. :waytogo:

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 01:49 AM

Wow... thanks! About to install it! Have android. What is "hst"?
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Posted 29 July 2013 - 02:46 AM

Hubble Space Telescope, that's another nice one too, it's a lot smaller then the ISS. That one makes some very bright passes too. :) It's amazing up there.. it's like 5pm traffic on a freeway but 24/7 lol.

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 10:11 AM

Jeff I get those NASA ISS alert emails. Just need the clear skies to actually be able to use a scope to spot it...lol

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 08:08 PM

What is a good Barlow for the z8 that's not too expensive? Also, the lens that come with it, are they ok for the time being without needing an upgrade too soon? I think either the telrad or Barlow should be first to do, but which would you change first?
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Posted 29 July 2013 - 08:09 PM

Eyepieces that come with it I meant.....






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