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#1 nightfisher

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Posted 04 August 2013 - 04:49 PM

Today i picked up a swift 839 60mm frac, seems like a 1961 vintage, complete with box and all bits in rather good condition, i plan to rig it up on the AZ4 mount. Is it true swift became Takahashi?

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Posted 04 August 2013 - 06:08 PM

You have found one great scope. I don't believe Swift became Takahashi, rather Swift bought components from Tak (they originally made castings for optical companies). At some point,Takahashi started making complete scopes. The earliest Swift scopes are from 1960. I have an 831 from 1960 and it is a great scope with great optics. It's very much like the earliest Taks, so there might be some connection, but I'd not go so far as to say Swift became Takahashi. Enjoy that scope.

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 12:52 PM

looking forward to getting first light, heard nothing but good things about these swift`s

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 01:02 PM

Make sure you add you scope to the Swift Registry here on CN.

http://www.cloudynig...d=classics&a...

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:48 AM

Had a quick first light with this little swift, using a hybrid diagonal and 1.25 ortho`s, very very good, superb optics

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 03:19 PM

You have found one great scope. I don't believe Swift became Takahashi, rather Swift bought components from Tak (they originally made castings for optical companies). At some point,Takahashi started making complete scopes. The earliest Swift scopes are from 1960. I have an 831 from 1960 and it is a great scope with great optics. It's very much like the earliest Taks, so there might be some connection, but I'd not go so far as to say Swift became Takahashi. Enjoy that scope.


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Posted 20 August 2013 - 04:57 PM

Now that's an interesting photo !

is that a ''sky domes'' dome on you site ?

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 05:56 PM

There is little doubt there is some connection between Swift and Takahashi. The problem is one of finding some substantive documentation. I would love to say my 831 is indeed an early form of Takahashi, but I can't. I also have a Swift Aerolite which is without a doubt a rebranded Carton made scope, not a Carton by Swift. I hope more real evidence of links Swift & Takahashi come to light, but until then, I have a great performing Swift 831.

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 06:06 PM

For those who haven't seen this site, it contains a few interesting bits of Takahashi lore.

http://www.astrosurf.../takahashi.html

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 06:37 PM

Interesting reading: http://yumarin7.saku...jp/swts831.html

http://www.cloudynig...3888214/page...

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 06:48 PM

That's part of Galakuma's web site and it's filled with good stuff. He is pretty certain the AVA (or AMA) and the infinity sign were trademarks of Takahashi. The early Swifts have the infinity symbol like this one:

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 07:00 PM

Now that's an interesting photo !

is that a ''sky domes'' dome on you site ?


Yes its my observatory, 2.7m Hercules :)

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 07:45 PM

Hercules

Is that what it was called !, (or your name for it)
apart from mine (white) and a green one yours is the only
other one I have seen, from what I can gather made in the west country
by a boat builder, very well made and better than what's available now, barring £££££,

Steve

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 01:53 AM

Hercules

Is that what it was called !, (or your name for it)
apart from mine (white) and a green one yours is the only
other one I have seen, from what I can gather made in the west country
by a boat builder, very well made and better than what's available now, barring £££££,

Steve


http://web.archive.o.../pages/home.htm

My dome is a white 2.7m Hercules, they also made a smaller 2.2m dome called the CASSIOPEIA .

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:38 PM

Thanks for the old link, very interesting,
mine is Hercules also,

OP, sorry for temporary high jacking your thread,

Steve

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 04:34 PM

no worries about hijacking thread

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Posted 01 September 2013 - 03:51 AM

After doing some checking, seems this little swift is 1964 not 61, i have fitted a dovetail bar, and now found a used super track AZ mount to use it with....a case of old meets new






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