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#1 youngamateur42

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 11:43 PM

When you are making star points in a field and you mess up (meaning put the star in the wrong place) what do you do? Just start over? I can't imagine that white out would look very good. I was making an M37 sketch with a lot of stars and messed up :foreheadslap:

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 02:52 AM

Justin,

What is happening that prevents you from erasing the errant mark and repositioning it properly?

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 06:45 AM

The reason is that it is an ink pen

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 06:53 AM

If I make an error, I usually simply cross the star with a tiny line, and remove it later from the scanned sketch digitally. I rarely erase these with an eraser as I find that its better to have a clearly marked error on the sketch than to have a faint nebula created by erasing the errant star.

But usually if I make too many errors (let's say 4 plus stars at wrong position) then I usually start over.

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 02:47 PM

Justin,

Are you using pen and ink while at the EP, or do you make a pencil sketch and then ink it in?

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 06:46 PM

Do the rough outside in pencil. Do the finished piece inside.

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 08:47 PM

I did rough in number 2 pencil. The sketch I messed up is the final one, I messed up the ink on a very rich stat cluster that takes a long time to do. I apologize for not clarifying exactly what the problem was. I am wondering if there is a way that anyone has been able to "save" their sketches like these, which are presented on white paper in a binder

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 11:54 PM

Well you could scan or shoot it and correct it in photoshop or gimp and produce a photo-quality print and call it done. Frame it or whatever. Infact you may find this photo editing allows for tweaking that's not practical in other ways.

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 01:09 AM

Well you could scan or shoot it and correct it in photoshop or gimp and produce a photo-quality print and call it done. Frame it or whatever. Infact you may find this photo editing allows for tweaking that's not practical in other ways.

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 09:06 AM

Thats a really great idea, never thought of doing that before, thanks guys! :bow:

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 07:17 PM

Would anyone else notice the errant star in the sketch?

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 07:31 PM

No, but I like to have my sketches as accurate as possible ;)

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 07:37 PM

I can understand that. I have lost track of how many otherwise good sketches I have trashed for the very same reason.

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 11:37 AM

I use a pen for the brightest stars, but regardless if I use pen or pencil, I don't erase erroneously placed stars. I do as starquake does - place a small X over the star and remove it on the scanned copy. Even stars made with a pencil will leave a small indent in your paper, making it very difficult to remove cleanly by erasure. ;)


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 06:00 PM

Well you could scan or shoot it and correct it in photoshop or gimp and produce a photo-quality print and call it done. Frame it or whatever. Infact you may find this photo editing allows for tweaking that's not practical in other ways.

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That's what I do. Make a sketch in pencil when I'm at the EP and then scan/photograph it onto my computer and then either trace it again or edit it directly in PS- this also enables me to invert the colours so I have a black background.






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