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#1 DavidC

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 05:12 PM

We've been reading and seeing some great articles and images on comet Ison in the last few months, but I haven't seen or heard much about comet Lovejoy. Last night I went out to a fairly dark area about 10:30 after the moon disappeared, to observe some of my favorite winter constellations and dso's. According to Heavens-Above, comet Lovejoy was supposed to be about half way in between Jupiter and Regulus last night, but I couldn't find it to save my life, and it is supposed to be about mag 10. I've heard Lovejoy is another great comet in the early morning sky, but I just don't hear or see much about it. Has anybody seen or heard much about comet Lovejoy??
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#2 bangbangexplode

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 05:24 PM

The only mention of Lovejoy that I've seen was from Eyes on the Sky. Other than that it's been ISON ISON ISON, especially from the astronomy mags.

I was going to try for Lovejoy tonight but I have overcast skies.

#3 boandpokey

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 05:54 PM

lovejoy is around mag 6.5 now. im heading to a 6.0 mag spot tomorrow with my sw100 tomorrow to catch it. shouldn't be hard to spot

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 05:57 PM

Google the website Comet Chasing for accurate info and great printable finder charts. Lovejoy may steal the show for the next few weeks. I'm hoping to see 4 or 5 comets tomorrow morning.

#5 T1R2

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 06:00 PM

Also dealing with clouds I am... :cloudy: :jedi:

#6 DavidC

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 06:28 PM

Thanks, I'll look into the Comet Chasing website and try again. It might be as good as Ison or even better, we'll see.
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Posted 09 November 2013 - 06:29 PM

I observed both a few days ago from a green site. Both had faint tails but Lovejoy was much brighter, easily seen in the 9x50 finder scope.

#8 Intensity2x

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 08:36 PM

Viewed both this morning with an 18" reflector. Lovejoy is the one to see for sure. Much higher, much brighter and much much larger. Lovejoy was easily visible, large, and I could make out the tail. ISON was faint, difficult and unimpressive.

#9 Tony Flanders

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 05:57 AM

We've been reading and seeing some great articles and images on comet Ison in the last few months, but I haven't seen or heard much about comet Lovejoy. Last night I went out to a fairly dark area about 10:30 after the moon disappeared, to observe some of my favorite winter constellations and dso's. According to Heavens-Above, comet Lovejoy was supposed to be about half way in between Jupiter and Regulus last night, but I couldn't find it to save my life, and it is supposed to be about mag 10.


I would say that the chances of finding a 10th-magnitude object by sweeping an area that huge is exceedingly close to zero. For instance, there are a number of 10th-magnitude galaxies in that swath, and you wouldn't expect to find them, would you?

Fortunately, Lovejoy is now 6th magnitude, making it much easier to spot. It is far more impressive than ISON. You can download detailed finder charts for both at the end of my blog.

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 08:36 AM

Tony is right. Even though Comet Lovejoy is currently about 7.0 magnitude, casually sweeping around a vast region of sky, like that currently between Jupiter and Regulus in hopes of picking up any non-nakedeye comet, is an almost hopeless task governed solely by chance. Unless situated in relatively close proximity to some nakedeye star to act as a guidepost, locating most binocular/telescopic comets calls for the observer to have a reasonably detailed chart indicating the comet's exact position to work from.

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 12:29 PM

:waytogo:
Thanks, Tony! The charts greatly helped me locate the two comets from chicago's lakefront this morning.

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 01:04 PM

Yep, Just looked for Lovejoy, this morning, between M44 and the Head of Leo and it was very obvious in binoculars.

#13 Dave Mitsky

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 04:19 PM

I was able to see Comet Lovejoy rather easily through a 10x50 Celestron Ultima binocular from my red zone backyard early this morning.

C/2013 R1 (Lovejoy) was located a bit northeast of M44 and appeared as a more-or-less circular patch of nebulosity.

Browse http://freestarchart...8-comet-love... and http://cometchasing....ets/2013_R1.pdf for finder charts.

For more on the comet, consult the following sites:

https://www.heavens-...1&lat=0&lng=...

http://spaceweatherg...24&PHPSESSID... (image)

http://scully.cfa.ha...?d=c&o=CK13R010 (ephemeris)

http://theskylive.com/lovejoy-tracker

http://cometchasing.skyhound.com/

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 05:59 PM

I've enjoyed Lovejoy on several mornings, most recently last Thursday when it was cruising past the Beehive in Cancer. Pretty in binocs and with a DSLR. I've yet to see ISON visually but have gotten a couple of faint images of it. And of course now that it's starting to brighten we're in for a week of clouds...

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 03:52 AM

I've enjoyed Lovejoy on several mornings, most recently last Thursday when it was cruising past the Beehive in Cancer. Pretty in binocs and with a DSLR. I've yet to see ISON visually but have gotten a couple of faint images of it. And of course now that it's starting to brighten we're in for a week of clouds...


Nice photo! Thanks for sharing.
I've been viewing it the past few nights through my TV-102. I'm using the Beehive - M44 - as my visual signpost, and it's pretty easy to spot as it moves toward the head of Leo. Pops right out in my 26mm Nagler (34x), and appears as a diffuse, round coma with a bright core. This is as seen from the comfort of my loft, through a dual-pane window. ;^) Yeah, I know... I'll get my old wimpy butt out there in the cold one of these nights!
I was getting frustrated hunting for Ison, but then read about the other comets currently viewable. Nice to see Lovejoy... first comet I've seen since Pan-Starrs, which was a naked-eye object from my front yard. Still hoping Ison gets that bright soon!
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Posted 11 November 2013 - 04:00 AM

I just seen my first comet of the year......Lovejoy=0, T1R2=7, right now its off the nose of Leo, looks sort of like M15 through the AR127 at 41x, have yet to even spot ISON. Next target will be Encke.

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 10:47 AM

Saw lovejoy this morning with the 10". It was easily seen in my 9x50 finder. Planning on following it the next few observing sessions The charts in the links posted above made it an easy find. Thanks guys.

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 01:05 PM

Saw Lovejoy in 10x50s from a red zone. No problem. Looked better from the yellow zone at my other house, though. easy to spot except for this morn, but it was after 6am, and having to look over a streetlight, so...

#19 Tom and Beth

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 04:44 PM

I've got a comparison shot (same equipment, etc) on the bottom of THIS THREAD.

Lovejoy is much easier as it's brighter and higher in the sky

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 08:59 AM

Animation of ISON I made on the 5th.
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(28 minute time span)

#21 mark8888

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 10:24 AM

Animation of ISON I made on the 5th.
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(28 minute time span)


Nice, cool video.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 06:20 PM

Yesterday morning I could observe both comets from an orange area, Lovejoy for the second time and ISON for the first time. Both were visible using 15x70 binoculars being Lovejoy much easier to spot. Although it was the first time for me to see ISON, I spent most of the time watching Lovejoy on my 8'' dobsonian as it seemed bigger, brighter and it was in a darker area of the sky.

So far ISON seems unimpressive to me but hopefully it will give us a good show in the coming weeks.

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#23 jimbo728

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 08:50 PM

Nice image nexguy. It so reminds me of Hyakutake soon after it started to get close.
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Posted 14 November 2013 - 01:37 PM

Saw what I am pretty sure was ISON a week ago using my 4.5 Starblast and 6mm ,small with short tail,but defintely a comet.Happy to just spot it.Looked at comet seeking site for location and then went out and searched .

This morning was out at 5 to 6 a.m. EST with 15x70 and slowly sweeping general area of LEO and spotted Lovejoy above his head. Went back in and checked position on Stellarium to make sure it wasn't a Messier object and then returned for longer look. Lovejoy much bigger and brighter but I couldn't see a tail.

However my eastern sky suffers fom nearby cities lights.Eastern sky a soft pearl whilst other directions very dark.Lower portion of eastern sky stars are hidden until binoculars or scope reveals them!Spent about 30 minutes more enjoying turning many smudges into clusters with the 15x70s.M42 showed the best detail and expanse yet noted in binoculars here,better than the 20x50s.I think the 15x70s are going to become a favorite.

It was 18 degrees F!Thermals plus insulated hooded long jacket and gloves made it comfortable asthere was no wind.

Thanks to Ralph Aguirre for inspiration to look for the comets.I hadn't realized Stellarium had comet capability and after updating ,it is even more useful.






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